Final Edit: Bungie has confirmed in the weekly update they lied but show no remorse or plan of action to make things right. Bungie has officially gone down the shitter and all that will be left is a toilet full of noobs! I'm about down with these assholes! http://youtu.be/5XS60K21z9w Edit 5: DeeJ will be addressing this problematic situation tomorrow. Hopefully, he will reveal an update coming detailed with changes and an apology. Edit 4: So some of you still question the experienced players understanding that the Iron Banner is a hoax. This will shut you up for good. Bungie fix this shit ASAP!!! WTF! http://youtu.be/IgCJjNjZl28 http://youtu.be/h2rUdKnB_4M Edit 3: I just went into Iron Banner with my level 4 Warlock and got 10 kills vs a team of all 25+ level Guardians. I didn't even have a heavy weapon equipped and our team was outmanned 3 to 6 for half the match. If you still don't think this is a hoax of an event than I don't know what other proof you need. I didn't even have a shotgun. I had a sniper rifle which I didn't use the whole match. Just ran around killing people with my 26 auto rifle. This Iron Banner is a joke and a slap in the face to all Legends who have put in countless hours building their Guardian. Edit 2: So many of you were asking for proof since you refused to accept the multiple reports of this falsely advertised Iron Banner. Well, here you go. http://youtu.be/-MjQ2Et9ozA http://youtu.be/rpOBprefTT8 Edit 1: Ok. Let me just clear some things up real quick. This post was made out of anger obviously because of how big of a let down this Iron Banner has been with all the hype Bungie put forth with it. I really do enjoy playing the game and that's why it's so frustrating to me because there is so much potential but they keep coming up short constantly. It's like they took a step back in the FPS game world and left so much on the table. You would think there is only one or two people making decisions about this game and they don't know what they are doing. The good news is they have a chance to redeem themselves because actual gameplay is rock solid. It's just a shell right now and need to listen to the hardcore gamers suggestions to make it better instead of the casuals who are just satisfied with mediocre options. As far as Iron Banner goes, the proof is in the pudding. I have played multiple more games since original post and nothing has changed from my stance and many others. It's just a normal crucible control match where everyone is the same with except maybe a max of 1% difference in damage or armor. As a 29 Titan with a 1390 defense, I shouldn't be able to be killed by a lvl 13 guardian with 2 shots from a shotty 20 feet away. It just does not make sense the way they claim armor and weapons are so important. If you are a level 13 and try to kill a 20+ PVE enemy, good luck. You will probably have to use 2 rockets, all sniper ammo, and multiple clips of primary to get him down. There is no reason anyone should support this Iron Banner the way it is now. This is not what we expected nor do we want. We want to feel powerful if we find a weak guardian who has yet to explore Venus and still stuck on the Moon. That level 13 should get absolutely wrecked with a one shot from my Last Word that's fully maxed and he better have a full amount of heavy if he wants to have any chance. If you still disagree with this, then I don't know what else to say. Maybe ask some of your friends for their opinions since your mind obviously made up or your head is too far up Bungie's ass to know the difference. Original Post: Look, don't get me wrong. I like to play this game and enjoy it but seriously, what is up with all the lies. Iron Banner in Destiny's words quote for quote: "LEVEL ADVANTAGES ENABLED" "Equip your most powerful gear. The Attack and Defense ratings for your weapons and your armor will be crucial to victory." This is 100 percent false. The attack ratings and defense ratings have 0 effect on the Iron Banner. I was dealing same damage and receiving same damage from people under level 20. I'm a 29. In PVE, any character below a 28, I can one shot kill with my Last Word. Not near the case here. NO DIFFERENCE THAN NORMAL CRUCIBLE AT ALL. Any PVE character below a 20 level would need to shoot me about 20 times before I die. Not here. NO DIFFERENCE THAN NORMAL CRUCIBLE AT ALL. Bungie even has the nerve to show you a picture right next to the quote with a guardian and his attack and defense ratings. What a f'n joke. Oh wait. Here is a great quote from DeekJ. "Bring your deadliest weapons. Equip your sturdiest armor. The Iron Lords are seeking the most powerful warriors who call the city their home. For those brave enough..." LOLOL He should have just said "Equip your uncommon helmet with your common gauntlets and your 26 attack auto rifle and be prepared to feel like you have the same strength as someone with all legendaries and one exotic..." That would have been a truthfull statement compared to this bullshit. Oh wait I almost forgot another lie by DeekJ. "The ratings on your gear will make all the difference! Unlike the other competitive playlists in Destiny, Iron Banner is not a level playing field." Did you not f'n have anyone test this shit? Holy shit balls. What is going on with this company? Is it run by Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles with Michaelangelo at the helm? That is a straight up lie that you told the community. What another let down this game has delivered to us. Can't wait till December so we can play the rest of the game that's already on the disc. Should be fun. Hip hip hooray! Great comment by Kolossal Squid: [quote]If the Iron Banner was the event Bungie said it was going to be it would really be an event only for the hardcore gamers that have spent so much of their time playing Destiny because they love the game. They are angry because they have devoted so much time into a game they love and this event was supposed to be their moment for Legendary glory. Lvl 16 players can't play Vault of Glass, so they shouldn't be able to kill a Lvl 29. That's why those guys that have reached that level are so upset. They dedicated to work at something they love and Bungie put Noobs at the same playing field. I have nothing but respect for those that have blistered their thumbs and blood shot their eyes grinding at Destiny. Bungie should be ashamed they let down this part of their fan base. Everyone else will get their event, but this was supposed to be for the truly legendary.[/quote] Could not have said it any better.