Happening right now, as we type.
[url=http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/occupywallstreet]So, do you support these heroes? Or do you not?[/url]
Anyone who doesn't support these protests should be shot.
[url=http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/wall-street-protest-begins-with-demonstrators-blocked/]The Revolution has begun.[/url]
[Edited on 09.18.2011 12:22 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] An monkey hero It's not a conspiracy theory. Where the -blam!- did you get that from? [/quote]Are you autistic or something? "Hurr durr they cured cancer but the drug companies run America and want to profit off people's deaths" is the very definition of a conspiracy theory.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] What is thiss Or you know, actually research candidates and vote, seriously why are so many people dumb?[/quote] Vote for Ron Paul? :D
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Or you know, actually research candidates and vote, seriously why are so many people dumb?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CultMiester4000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] An monkey hero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BRADEN OWNZ [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] An monkey hero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ANinjaGuardian Well using meds and chemo is a lot more expensive then a cure. [/quote] Which is why the cures for AIDS and cancer haven't been mass-produced and marketed. They want the sick and dying to continue paying, to the expense of their lives and health. It's sickening. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ANinjaGuardian Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. Sadly the way things are working now we'll only try and utilize alternative energy sources after the oil runs out.[/quote] Which is why a total overhaul of the corporate system needs to be done. Those fiends cannot be allowed to stunt technological progress, and they cannot be allowed to sacrifice human lives for money.[/quote] Point 1: Where is there a cure to cancer, link? Point 2: It's not the governments place to tell companies what they have to do in terms of business, even if you don't like it. They aren't holding back a cure for cancer.[/quote] [url=http://technorati.com/lifestyle/article/the-cure-for-cancer-has-been/]This is the cure.[/url] [url=http://www.toonaripost.com/2011/05/life-style/cancer-cure-being-ignored/]This is the cure.[/url] [url=http://nutritiondietnews.com/853757/]Here's your cure.[/url] Oh, wait, there is no cure. There never will be. [/quote]hmm, it looks like actual proof has made the man go away - Genius minds, totally independent and not at all up their government's ass.[/quote]So, some blogger writes an article, and then just links to the main page of a university medical site, and you call that proof? Academia has no interest in hiding a cure for cancer, they would love it. The fame, the government grants they would get, and the sense of accomplishment of curing cancer (they're in academia, they don't care about getting rich)? You can't just hide that. The media has no interest in propping up pharmaceutical companies, this would be a great story. And all the medical companies aren't banded together to hide all cures so they can all make a profit. OPEC tried that, someone always sold more than allowed, and they couldn't control each other. And that was just oil.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Sage Of Halo Ok, I've gone through half this thread and I still don't know what this protest is protesting. This reminds me of the [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvnoe1y1UNU&feature=player_detailpage#t=468s]Rally at the Park[/url] from GTA3[/quote][/quote] haha, this is brilliant!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Assault [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Astinous [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Psychotic Undead Hm, so what's all this mess going on about now?[/quote] Freedom.[/quote] Aren't we already free?[/quote] Your standard of freedom is different. You [i]think[/i] you're free, but you're not. You're just another guy who was born for nothing more than a petty job and a cool phone.
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America is actually the strongest democracy for a slew of reasons. If any of you even bother to watch the news, without disregarding whatever you don't want to hear, you'll know that corruption in the nation is taken seriously. [i]"Ok, well corruption may be taken seriously, but the poor need to rise! We need to fight back the conformists, and show the government we won't take their BS anymore![/i] Really? What will you do, tax the rich? What would that accomplish? It would only make them poorer, and where would their money go? To you, The poor? Wouldn't that just be switching places with the rich? [i]"well, no, we'd make everyone equal..."[/i] Really now, because isn't that technically how it always starts? Everyone is equal, except those in power? In fact, you keep talking about freedom this and freedom that, tell me, if the majority of people did want what you are telling me right now, why isn't there anyone in office that is supporting you? Why isn't your plan gaining millions upon millions of supports? [i] Because people are stupid, and are conformists.[/i] Really? So, you're telling me the majority of the people in this country, in this whole wide world, are all stupid conformists, except those who believe what you want, and that your opinion should come before millions of others? Sounds very hypocritical... Very Hypocritical indeed...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] deltahalo UK Nothing like a bunch of kids with no education in economics trying to shape economic policy.[/quote] haha true, but as long as the guy leading the rally knows what he's talking about, the numbers will always help.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] An monkey hero The cures for AIDS and cancer have been found many times, but the medicine industry doesn't want them on the market.[/quote]LOL, gotta love this incredibly stupid conspiracy theory. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] An monkey hero Also, how come we have the technology to create vehicles that don't use petrol for functioning, yet we don't see cars fueled by the sun rolling around?[/quote]If you knew anything about what you're talking about, you'd know that solar power is nowhere near a viable alternative to power cars with. It's vaslty inferior to internal combustion. As for hyrdrogen: it's not found on Earth in a state that can be used for fuel; it's always coupled with other elements (usually oxygen). It will also require a lot more development before we can build that kind of infrastructure and create cars that are as safe as current ones.[/quote] It's not a conspiracy theory. Where the -blam!- did you get that from?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BRADEN OWNZ [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bearded Elf Hydrogen powered cars aren't some magical cure to oil. There's one fact you must first recognize. Oil is the cheapest, most portable, and safe source of energy ever found. It's truly an amazing energy source. It's not like you can say "Hey, there's a lot of hydrogen in the universe, let's just drop oil and use hydrogen." No, hydrogen is expensive to isolate, highly explosive, there's no infrastructure to support it for mainstream use, it provides nowhere near the same amount of energy as does oil, and it can't replace oil with our current technology at least. No freedom in America? I ask you, what [i]can't[/i] you do?[/quote] Not so much that, its just that using nuclear energy to supply electric cars is a far better Idea.[/quote]You're talking about two different things, unless you're suggesting micro reactors in each car. If you haven't noticed, there's the Tesla Model S, Nissan Leaf, Chevy Volt, buses and trucks are starting to go all electric, Ford Ranger EV, Toyota RAV4 EV, and more and more are just pouring out of automakers. Now, those just plug in to your wall for power. Powering the grid with nuclear power is a separate issue, and there's many reasons why you would or wouldn't want that. For one, disposal of the waste is a big challenge, as well as maintaining reactors that are now up to 40 years old. Chernobyl was a very unique case of failure, but it was one of the most expensive disasters in history. The point isn't that it's going to happen again and again, it's that nuclear power plants must be very well maintained, managed, and run. You can't just start putting them anywhere and everywhere and hiring the local farmers to run them. But it's also very, very energy dense, it's very clean, and thorium could possibly make it [i]the[/i] energy source of the future.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BRADEN OWNZ [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the sedated [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hitmandw [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the sedated You guys are complete idiots if you think the country is in need of some type of 'revolution.'[/quote] America? Definitely needs change. [/quote] Definitely not. You know, there are people in countries out there who would literally kill to be in the spot you're in right now, sitting at your computer eating Cheetos and having a steady income in which you can support yourself and speak out against your government at will, even if there isn't a single thing wrong with it. Every single person living in America is a lucky bastard, almost spoiled. There is no need to change it. Oh boo hoo our economy is bad and boo hoo you don't like Obama. Well vote his ass out. It's freedoms like these that separate Americans from the rest of the world. [/quote] Might I add that you can start your own business, and become filthy rich, or go broke and own guns and say what you want ( for the most part).[/quote] Not only that, but if you don't like your life it's all your fault, not 'the systems.' Every person for this 'revolution' is just an angsty, teenaged, lazy bastard. And a complete dumb ass. [Edited on 09.18.2011 12:19 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bearded Elf A cure for cancer hasn't been found, that's ridiculous. That would be the biggest medical breakthrough in all of human history by a massive margin. [i]Everyone[/i] would come to you, and you would make more money than you could ever know what to do with. Every single competitor would be put out of business, and the fame that came along with that? Priceless on its own. Hydrogen powered cars aren't some magical cure to oil. There's one fact you must first recognize. Oil is the cheapest, most portable, and safe source of energy ever found. It's truly an amazing energy source. It's not like you can say "Hey, there's a lot of hydrogen in the universe, let's just drop oil and use hydrogen." No, hydrogen is expensive to isolate, highly explosive, there's no infrastructure to support it for mainstream use, it provides nowhere near the same amount of energy as does oil, and it can't replace oil with our current technology at least. No freedom in America? I ask you, what [i]can't[/i] you do?[/quote] QFT, though these angsty conspiracy-theory morons will no doubt ignore your logic and reason in favour of "hurr durr smash capitalism!"
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] M_Power [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BRADEN OWNZ [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bearded Elf Hydrogen powered cars aren't some magical cure to oil. There's one fact you must first recognize. Oil is the cheapest, most portable, and safe source of energy ever found. It's truly an amazing energy source. It's not like you can say "Hey, there's a lot of hydrogen in the universe, let's just drop oil and use hydrogen." No, hydrogen is expensive to isolate, highly explosive, there's no infrastructure to support it for mainstream use, it provides nowhere near the same amount of energy as does oil, and it can't replace oil with our current technology at least. No freedom in America? I ask you, what [i]can't[/i] you do?[/quote] Not so much that, its just that using nuclear energy to supply electric cars is a far better Idea.[/quote] I bet you're one of those people who think electricity just comes from that hole in the wall.... RIP stock investments.[/quote] *facepalm*
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] An monkey hero Nothing like a comformist, bending over to the will of those in power, for fear that he will be singled out and called an individual; one whose opinions differ from the masses, one who is marked as crazy and ridiculed. Certainly you will vote for Obama, will you not? Of course you will. He's a great president. Of course he deserves to be voted back to power, just like George W. Bush. [/quote] Not sure where you're extrapolating all that from, as my leanings are not indicated or implied in my original post. I don't mind people protesting. What I do find down right stupid is who is protesting. Anonymous - the same group that raided Habbo Hotel? What do they know about economics? The group that hacked an epileptic forum with flashing images? You lose most of, if not all of, your legitimacy when expressing genuine concern over policy when your past activities are those similar to what you'd expect of thirteen year olds. Its like if the IRA wanted to legitimately protest Green Belt laws in the UK. Who the hell would sympathise with them?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hitmandw [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the sedated You guys are complete idiots if you think the country is in need of some type of 'revolution.'[/quote] America? Definitely needs change. [/quote] But but but I thought we got that [i]CHANGE[/i] with Obama?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] An monkey hero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BRADEN OWNZ [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] An monkey hero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ANinjaGuardian Well using meds and chemo is a lot more expensive then a cure. [/quote] Which is why the cures for AIDS and cancer haven't been mass-produced and marketed. They want the sick and dying to continue paying, to the expense of their lives and health. It's sickening. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ANinjaGuardian Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. Sadly the way things are working now we'll only try and utilize alternative energy sources after the oil runs out.[/quote] Which is why a total overhaul of the corporate system needs to be done. Those fiends cannot be allowed to stunt technological progress, and they cannot be allowed to sacrifice human lives for money.[/quote] Point 1: Where is there a cure to cancer, link? Point 2: It's not the governments place to tell companies what they have to do in terms of business, even if you don't like it. They aren't holding back a cure for cancer.[/quote] [url=http://technorati.com/lifestyle/article/the-cure-for-cancer-has-been/]This is the cure.[/url] [url=http://www.toonaripost.com/2011/05/life-style/cancer-cure-being-ignored/]This is the cure.[/url] [url=http://nutritiondietnews.com/853757/]Here's your cure.[/url] Oh, wait, there is no cure. There never will be. [/quote]hmm, it looks like actual proof has made the man go away - Genius minds, totally independent and not at all up their government's ass.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] An monkey hero The cures for AIDS and cancer have been found many times, but the medicine industry doesn't want them on the market.[/quote]LOL, gotta love this incredibly stupid conspiracy theory. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] An monkey hero Also, how come we have the technology to create vehicles that don't use petrol for functioning, yet we don't see cars fueled by the sun rolling around?[/quote]If you knew anything about what you're talking about, you'd know that solar power is nowhere near a viable alternative to power cars with. It's vaslty inferior to internal combustion. As for hyrdrogen: it's not found on Earth in a state that can be used for fuel; it's always coupled with other elements (usually oxygen). It will also require a lot more development before we can build that kind of infrastructure and create cars that are as safe as current ones.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the sedated [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hitmandw [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the sedated You guys are complete idiots if you think the country is in need of some type of 'revolution.'[/quote] America? Definitely needs change. [/quote] Definitely not. You know, there are people in countries out there who would literally kill to be in the spot you're in right now, sitting at your computer eating Cheetos and having a steady income in which you can support yourself and speak out against your government at will, even if there isn't a single thing wrong with it. Every single person living in America is a lucky bastard, almost spoiled. There is no need to change it. Oh boo hoo our economy is bad and boo hoo you don't like Obama. Well vote his ass out. It's freedoms like these that separate Americans from the rest of the world. [/quote] Too bad they're all the same face under a different mask. Except for Ron Paul. I guess he could make a real, beneficial change. Otherwise, why are the news companies calling him crazy? Because they don't want him in power. If he becomes president (which I hope) he will be assassinated. I can feel it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BRADEN OWNZ [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bearded Elf Hydrogen powered cars aren't some magical cure to oil. There's one fact you must first recognize. Oil is the cheapest, most portable, and safe source of energy ever found. It's truly an amazing energy source. It's not like you can say "Hey, there's a lot of hydrogen in the universe, let's just drop oil and use hydrogen." No, hydrogen is expensive to isolate, highly explosive, there's no infrastructure to support it for mainstream use, it provides nowhere near the same amount of energy as does oil, and it can't replace oil with our current technology at least. No freedom in America? I ask you, what [i]can't[/i] you do?[/quote] Not so much that, its just that using nuclear energy to supply electric cars is a far better Idea.[/quote] I bet you're one of those people who think electricity just comes from that hole in the wall.... anyway, I said it in this thread before and I'll say it again, these idiots protesting are gonna screw up the NYSE... RIP stock investments. [Edited on 09.18.2011 12:13 PM PDT]
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So, from what I've read, it was a complete and total failure, and only 300-1000 people actually showed up. Can anyone find a reputable source that says anything different?
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The only way to ensure change is to vote out [u]every[/u] [u]single[/u] [u]person[/u] currently holding office in government. What people do now-a-days is blame the political strife on [i]everyone else's[/i] congress person - while re-electeing their own. The elected officials understand this has happened the last 4 elections and they could care less about "protests." Nobody is going to vote out "their guy/lady."
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] An monkey hero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] deltahalo UK Nothing like a bunch of kids with no education in economics trying to shape economic policy.[/quote] Nothing like a comformist, bending over to the will of those in power, for fear that he will be singled out and called an individual; one whose opinions differ from the masses, one who is marked as crazy and ridiculed. Certainly you will vote for Obama, will you not? Of course you will. He's a great president. Of course he deserves to be voted back to power, just like George W. Bush. [/quote] As his name suggests, he's from the UK dip-blam!- and he makes a valid point at these protestors are just a bunch of wide-eyed idealistic college students who don't even know what they want.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the sedated [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hitmandw [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the sedated You guys are complete idiots if you think the country is in need of some type of 'revolution.'[/quote] America? Definitely needs change. [/quote] Definitely not. You know, there are people in countries out there who would literally kill to be in the spot you're in right now, sitting at your computer eating Cheetos and having a steady income in which you can support yourself and speak out against your government at will, even if there isn't a single thing wrong with it. Every single person living in America is a lucky bastard, almost spoiled. There is no need to change it. Oh boo hoo our economy is bad and boo hoo you don't like Obama. Well vote his ass out. It's freedoms like these that separate Americans from the rest of the world. [/quote] Might I add that you can start your own business, and become filthy rich, or go broke and own guns and say what you want ( for the most part). [Edited on 09.18.2011 12:11 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bearded Elf A cure for cancer hasn't been found, that's ridiculous. That would be the biggest medical breakthrough in all of human history by a massive margin. [i]Everyone[/i] would come to you, and you would make more money than you could ever know what to do with. Every single competitor would be put out of business, and the fame that came along with that? Priceless on its own. Hydrogen powered cars aren't some magical cure to oil. There's one fact you must first recognize. Oil is the cheapest, most portable, and safe source of energy ever found. It's truly an amazing energy source. It's not like you can say "Hey, there's a lot of hydrogen in the universe, let's just drop oil and use hydrogen." No, hydrogen is expensive to isolate, highly explosive, there's no infrastructure to support it for mainstream use, it provides nowhere near the same amount of energy as does oil, and it can't replace oil with our current technology at least. No freedom in America? I ask you, what [i]can't[/i] you do?[/quote] Indeed. A cure for cancer hasn't been found. MANY cures for cancer have been found and rejected, over and over again. I'm not even going to bother taking my time with you. Read my previous posts about the cure for cancer.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hitmandw [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the sedated You guys are complete idiots if you think the country is in need of some type of 'revolution.'[/quote] America? Definitely needs change. [/quote] Definitely not. You know, there are people in countries out there who would literally kill to be in the spot you're in right now, sitting at your computer eating Cheetos and having a steady income in which you can support yourself and speak out against your government at will, even if there isn't a single thing wrong with it. Every single person living in America is a lucky bastard, almost spoiled. There is no need to change it. Oh boo hoo our economy is bad and boo hoo you don't like Obama. Well vote his ass out. It's freedoms like these that separate Americans from the rest of the world. Go live somewhere else if you're butt hurt about the kind of freedoms you think you don't have. [Edited on 09.18.2011 12:10 PM PDT]
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So much derp and childishness in one thread. People going "Ooh look at me smash capitalism corrupt governments evil corporations hurr durr" and thinking it makes them rebel.