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9/18/2011 8:20:39 AM
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Anon occupying Wall Street for 2 months-HAPPENING NOW!
Happening right now, as we type.
[url=http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/occupywallstreet]So, do you support these heroes? Or do you not?[/url]
Anyone who doesn't support these protests should be shot.
[url=http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/wall-street-protest-begins-with-demonstrators-blocked/]The Revolution has begun.[/url]
[Edited on 09.18.2011 12:22 AM PDT]
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Everyone here surprises me in how narrow minded and short sighted you are. We offer our freedoms to be protected by the government, which raises a national army, which provides international interactions, trade, and the like. I honestly doubt a bunch of people on The Flood know how to run a government better than how it is already being run, regardless of what you may say. Next, in this whole "revolutionary" attitude. Time and time again throughout history, revolutions happen and you go right back to square one. You topple the rich and elite? The poor then become the rich and elite. Its a vicious cycle for power. Those who are treated unfairly want to treat others unfairly. Put them in power, your worse off than you started. AKA French revolution. Taxation is a necessity. The government cannot pull money out of its ass and fund all the things a massive government needs to fund. Its simply not possible. Any real smaller state, in a time of Imperialism and expansionism, will never survive unless part of a larger government. Freedom is not given when part of such a government. Its like working for a company - they give you work and pay, but you need to abide by the code of conduct. If your upset about how "freedom" is worded, go write another version yourself and publish it. Look im not all for corruption and having an oligarchy, it just seems that here, alot of people run around screaming "revolution!" and "anon is jesus!" without fully understanding the entire situation.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zon The Great [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zon The Great [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 If you're serious then how aren't we free?[/quote] We don't have the right to all the money we make, how is that freedom?[/quote] Are you referring to taxes?[/quote] Sure. I'm sure the other person was referring how we're slaves to a monetary system (spoiler: we're not), so I'm offering a counter point. How can I truly be considered free when 35% of the result of my work goes to someone else? [/quote] That's wrong, it goes to [i]something[/i] else. the money is needed to keep our government running.
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Working hard is not supposed to equal high pay or even mediocre pay. You are paid in the market based off your specific set of skills and the supply and demand of those skills in the labor market. If that is disconcerting to you, learn a new set of skills and increase your desirability.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zon The Great [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zon The Great [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 If you're serious then how aren't we free?[/quote] We don't have the right to all the money we make, how is that freedom?[/quote] Are you referring to taxes?[/quote] Sure. I'm sure the other person was referring how we're slaves to a monetary system (spoiler: we're not), so I'm offering a counter point. How can I truly be considered free when 35% of the result of my work goes to someone else? [/quote] Did you not go to school?[/quote] Ha. You owned him.
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lol because politicians and CEOs are going to listen to a bunch of bored basement dwelling nerds who don't even know what they're protesting for... anonymous...what a joke. thinking they can change the world.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EternalPenitence The best slave is the one who thinks he's free. I'm off for now, brothers. I will check back later.[/quote]It's hilarious that the paranoid free-man [i]thinks[/i] that he's a slave.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zon The Great [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zon The Great [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 If you're serious then how aren't we free?[/quote] We don't have the right to all the money we make, how is that freedom?[/quote] Are you referring to taxes?[/quote] Sure. I'm sure the other person was referring how we're slaves to a monetary system (spoiler: we're not), so I'm offering a counter point. How can I truly be considered free when 35% of the result of my work goes to someone else? [/quote] Did you not go to school? [Edited on 09.18.2011 2:48 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zon The Great [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 If you're serious then how aren't we free?[/quote] We don't have the right to all the money we make, how is that freedom?[/quote] Are you referring to taxes?[/quote] Sure. I'm sure the other person was referring how we're slaves to a monetary system (spoiler: we're not), so I'm offering a counter point. How can I truly be considered free when 35% of the result of my work goes to someone else? [Edited on 09.18.2011 2:47 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 What do you think they are protesting about?[/quote]From what I can tell, they're protesting the negative things Wall Street has done for America, and the world, and through that the oligarchy created by 1% of the population controlling 99% of the wealth.[/quote] Have they offered up a plan?[/quote]I hear they're going to release a manifesto after seven days of protest
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zon The Great [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zon The Great It's such a stupid protest. They're protesting a system that favors the rich? Well boy oh boy, [u]maybe you'd make money if you weren't camping out of Wall Street for a dumb cause[/u]. [/quote]I understand if you don't agree with the protest, but that statement is just retarded. Most people who work hard their entire lives don't even make a fraction of what the top 1% of the wealthy make in a year. [/quote] Did I ever say they'd make what the top 1% makes? Nope. But those top 1% do work hard. It's hard to determine who works "harder," though it's obvious that CEO's should make more than a simple janitor. [/quote]Oh yeah, people who just make money off of nothing, IE: wall street, totally deserve their money. The point is they're protesting the vast disparity in wealth, not that those who work hard should get more money than those who don't.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zon The Great [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 If you're serious then how aren't we free?[/quote] We don't have the right to all the money we make, how is that freedom?[/quote] Are you referring to taxes?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rahm Emanuel [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Astinous [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShadowLegacy Awww, so cute. They actually think they will make an impact on the world. [/quote] They're 20,000. I think they will leave quite a scratch. I certainly will.[/quote] Glenn Beck had a rally of 100,000 people, and not a -blam!- was given that day.[/quote] For the record, only about 500-1000 showed up.
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This thread makes Glenn Beck seem intelligent.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EternalPenitence Blood on the ground won't work, nor will peace. So what should they do?[/quote] Create and provide a better alternative. It's the only way that has EVER succeeded. No amount of protest, (peaceful or otherwise), no amount of revolution (just or unjust), no amount of songs sung or blood spilled make one bit of difference unless and until there is a better alternative. Because until then, all of the "change" are simply slogans and words in the breeze. Make something better, let it stand beside the alternative, allow the world to see that "this actually works" and let people do what they have always done. Act in their own best interests. Until then, it's all just talk and theory. And if you don't have something better? Why are you trying to destroy something that works? It may not work well, but it's better than ANYTHING that's come before. No, really, it is.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 If you're serious then how aren't we free?[/quote] We don't have the right to all the money we make, how is that freedom?
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What's all this bollocks about?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SkilPhil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 What do you think they are protesting about?[/quote] [url=http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/hey-president-obama-our-one-demand.html]they dont even know yet[/url][/quote] wow really?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zon The Great It's such a stupid protest. They're protesting a system that favors the rich? Well boy oh boy, [u]maybe you'd make money if you weren't camping out of Wall Street for a dumb cause[/u]. [/quote]I understand if you don't agree with the protest, but that statement is just retarded. Most people who work hard their entire lives don't even make a fraction of what the top 1% of the wealthy make in a year. [/quote] Did I ever say they'd make what the top 1% makes? Nope. But those top 1% do work hard. It's hard to determine who works "harder," though it's obvious that CEO's should make more than a simple janitor.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Miz KillZone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Assault [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Astinous [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Psychotic Undead Hm, so what's all this mess going on about now?[/quote] Freedom.[/quote] Aren't we already free?[/quote] LOL! NO![/quote] The best slave is the one who thinks he's free. I'm off for now, brothers. I will check back later.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EternalPenitence [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EternalPenitence [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Assault [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EternalPenitence Blood on the ground won't work, nor will peace. So what should they do?[/quote] Go home and get on with their lives?[/quote] Unacceptable. How can you say that they should stop trying to learn to walk because they've fallen flat on their face?[/quote] If they don't have a leg to stand on it tends to be a good idea to stop trying.[/quote] You can advance even by crawling.[/quote] There is no reason when you don't even know where or why you are crawling.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Miz KillZone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Assault [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Astinous [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Psychotic Undead Hm, so what's all this mess going on about now?[/quote] Freedom.[/quote] Aren't we already free?[/quote] LOL! NO![/quote] If you're serious then how aren't we free?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Astinous [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShadowLegacy Awww, so cute. They actually think they will make an impact on the world. [/quote] They're 20,000. I think they will leave quite a scratch. I certainly will.[/quote] Glenn Beck had a rally of 100,000 people, and not a -blam!- was given that day.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slayer2142 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EternalPenitence [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Assault [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EternalPenitence Blood on the ground won't work, nor will peace. So what should they do?[/quote] Go home and get on with their lives?[/quote] Unacceptable. How can you say that they should stop trying to learn to walk because they've fallen flat on their face?[/quote] If they don't have a leg to stand on it tends to be a good idea to stop trying.[/quote] You can advance even by crawling.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Assault [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Astinous [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Psychotic Undead Hm, so what's all this mess going on about now?[/quote] Freedom.[/quote] Aren't we already free?[/quote] LOL! NO!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FoxHoundNinja 8 What do you think they are protesting about?[/quote]From what I can tell, they're protesting the negative things Wall Street has done for America, and the world, and through that the oligarchy created by 1% of the population controlling 99% of the wealth.[/quote] Have they offered up a plan?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EternalPenitence [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Assault [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EternalPenitence Blood on the ground won't work, nor will peace. So what should they do?[/quote] Go home and get on with their lives?[/quote] Unacceptable. How can you say that they should stop trying to learn to walk because they've fallen flat on their face?[/quote] If they don't have a leg to stand on it tends to be a good idea to stop trying.
