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4/13/2025 9:04:26 AM
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Destiny 2’s Meta Is a Joke — But the Punchline Is Marathon

Ah, the final days before Prismatic — when the Destiny sandbox still bore a semblance of balance and the illusion of design intent. But then, Bungie remembered they had a DLC to sell. And like clockwork, restraint was thrown out the window in favor of spectacle. The meta was teetering on a knife’s edge of actually being decent, and then they gave it the nudge — straight off the cliff. We went from a curated sandbox to a full-blown circus. Pulse rifles got juiced like they owed someone money, and suddenly every weapon came with laser beam accuracy like the Traveler itself was guiding bullets. And instead of dialing things back? Nah. Bungie doubled down. Now it’s all about ability spam, synchronized crouch-camping, and fireteams holding hands tighter than a group of first graders on a field trip. And yes, inevitably someone chimes in with, “Well, Destiny was never meant to be competitive.” As if that somehow excuses a sandbox descending into absolute chaos. That’s not an argument — that’s a shrug dressed up as a take. The “space magic” excuse is just as tired. Balance matters because people play it competitively — not necessarily for money or clout, but because competition is intrinsic to PvP. Ignoring balance to the point that your game starts cannibalizing itself? That’s bad design no matter what flavor of magic you wrap it in. This isn’t a meta anymore — it’s a fever dream of power fantasy with no intention of waking up. Yes, it’s the worst it’s ever been. And what’s wild? People love it. They bask in this chaotic soup of nonsense, confusing excess with depth. And I get it — Bungie’s eyes are on Marathon now. But if that game is half as soulless as it looks (and right now it’s giving “AI-generated pitch deck” energy), then we’re watching a studio pivot from an identity crisis into a full-blown personality wipe. Destiny used to feel like it was made by people who loved games. Now it feels like it’s being managed by people who love engagement metrics. Charming, no?

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  • Destiny streamers are all over it and Bungie are lapping it up. Big mistake.

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    • The only thing I have a problem with here really is the "teammates holding hands" part. Holy cow, y'all. Can you please get the -Blam!- off of me? I can't breathe. Every time I find someone to start shooting at, at least 2 or 3 of my teammates want to bunch up around me and try to shoot at the same one guy. I try to strafe, only to be blocked by a teammate on either side of me. Go find your own guy to shoot at. Ugh! So annoying!

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      • Pvp is still fun….but if you are looking for a true competitive pvp game, look elsewhere.. Case in point, just played a QP….was fun since my expectations are lower and i have nothing else to do, and i don’t really use the meta…died to in the match: - Jotunn 3 times - got frozen twice then killed - got strand suspended then killed - daybreak, even though i was behind a wall - team shot at least 5 times since the other team was camping with redrix (2-3 of them) - 2-3 legitimate 1v1 gun battles vs someone also looking for gunplay… But i had fun, trying to get some gunplay action…and yah, i was playing void hunter

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        • Melodramatic slop.

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          • [quote]Destiny used to feel like it was made by people who loved games. Now it feels like it’s being managed by people who love engagement metrics.[/quote] That's because it [i]is[/i] being managed by people who only love engagement metrics.

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          • It'll be another Concord. Just sit back, watch and get your popcorn. The -blam!- show is about to begin.

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            • Editado por WAR: 4/13/2025 7:44:54 PM
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              Lol Marathon, not pre-ordering that polish dog turd and definitely not for an okay looking emblem, might consider it if I was under the influence of shrooms cuz that game inspires recreational drug use in order to play, they should just cut their losses now and abandon that -blam!- looks terrible 🤣🤣🤣

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              • Ah yes, the PvP crowd thinking the game revolves around them yet again. ‘PvP is unbalanced, the game is “descending into chaos” and “cannibalizing itself” even though it’s only 5% of the content. Anyone who disagrees just doesn’t know stuff like I do’ Hahahaha!

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                • Let’s not pretend the meta was good before TFS. The meta in destiny hasn’t been good since rise of iron, pre special ammo rework.

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                  • Editado por livin like larry: 4/15/2025 4:55:10 AM
                    They don’t care man. It’s pathetic how this meta has been allowed to continue this way, but it just feels like we always have a few dumb outliers that take forever to reign in. A never ending cycle of weird tuning choices that could have been avoided.

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                  • [quote]Yes, it’s the worst it’s ever been.[/quote]Tell me you didn't play D1 without telling me you didn't play D1.

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                  • Well said! Bump, I glad I don't play

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                  • Editado por Fever: 4/14/2025 7:07:31 AM
                    This guy ^ can clearly see the things that happen when you spend hours doing something for fun instead of making it for revenue and not caring about anything except money.

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                  • "And yes, inevitably someone chimes in with, “Well, Destiny was never meant to be competitive.” As if that somehow excuses a sandbox descending into absolute chaos. That’s not an argument — that’s a shrug dressed up as a take. The “space magic” excuse is just as tired. Balance matters because people play it competitively — not necessarily for money or clout, but because competition is intrinsic to PvP. Ignoring balance to the point that your game starts cannibalizing itself? That’s bad design no matter what flavor of magic you wrap it in." Don't talk about balance.......if you're not prepared to sacrifice your hard earned loot and trade it in for a static set of gear that never changes. Just don't. You either want true balance (which most people in destiny 2 don't want) or chaos. You can't have both. Not here. The sandbox has always been absolute chaos and it'll never be anything else. It'll never be competitive and it was never seemingly dressed up to be competitive. The bottom line is it's CTF where anything and everything goes. You just either lean into the most dominant flavour of the season or you don't and you struggle. That's it. "This isn’t a meta anymore — it’s a fever dream of power fantasy with no intention of waking up. Yes, it’s the worst it’s ever been. And what’s wild? People love it. They bask in this chaotic soup of nonsense, confusing excess with depth." That's what D2 is at this point. Absolute chaos and mayhem. If you're seeking something more balanced and competitive......it maybe time to considered moving on.

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                    • Here’s some advice: [b]Use the Meta.[/b] The forums love a pity party. Players love killing you. [b]Fireteams team shoot.[/b] It’s literally in the name. [b]Balance Never Existed and Never Will. [/b] There’s only shifts in what’s broken. Players keep anticipating that one fix will even things out. It never does. For all the complainers, you had a moment of real balance with the SPECIAL AMMO METER. Then you complained about that too

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                      • I don't want every pvp shooter to be the same with a different skin. I'll admit weapons are kinda absurd atm, but ability spam is what sets the game apart from the rest.

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                        • Editado por Ferus Lux: 4/13/2025 11:30:14 PM
                          [quote]This isn’t a meta anymore — it’s a fever dream of power fantasy with no intention of waking up. Yes, it’s the worst it’s ever been. And what’s wild? People love it. They bask in this chaotic soup of nonsense, confusing excess with depth.[/quote] Why do you have to be so overdramatic and corny? It's a video game. You aren't actually living in the game world or sandbox. Being upset over the lack of balance in a side pvp game mode that is less than 25% of content but rejecting a dedicated PvP effort in a new game you haven't played yet is not a smart move imo.

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                          • I AGREE WITH YOU 1000%! The sweet spot was when Survival was still the competitive mode and special ammo was transmat and had to be earned. It was great! Everything felt more balanced than it ever had before. The only thing lacking was heavy should be a one and done in comp, not a continuous interruption where everyone just B'lines for heavy 3-4 times in a game. Well written post. Thanks for making me feel not so alone in this thought process.

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                          • Not trying to start a fight here but weren't you the one messaging me yesterday on how stupid khvostov was while running invis RDM last word Don't get me wrong, I dislike the long standing pulse meta as the next guy but it's kinda hard to take it seriously. Its only a game

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                            • I disagree. The crucible is outstanding right now. Near the best it has ever been. I am loving it still! Marathon... a big bummer...should have made a Destiny extraction

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                            • The balance you seek can be found in dedicated pvp games. Destiny 2 is a pve game first. Always has been always will be.

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                              • Editado por 堺市 Rinzler (PRIMARCH): 4/13/2025 5:48:48 PM
                                You need to stop pretending as if destiny is primarily a pvp game, because its not. You're also upset about abilities, when the entire game and its story centers around our guardian, using space magic. To drive this point even further, the crucible is just training exercises meant for the guardians to better harness their abilities, to better prepare them for real encounters. Hence why Lord Shaxx is always yelling at us to throw more grenades, and compliments us for utilizing our light... Try cod instead.

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                                • People who [i]really want a balanced PvP experience[/i] play actual PvP games, not something like this.

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                                  • I can't assume marathon will be terrible. Remember this is bungie, people thought destiny was awful, 10 years later.

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                                    • From what I've seen we've got no set meta currently I've seen people run anything they want and I love it. If your playing top players tho then yes your always gonna see meta weapon cause it's all they know, they don't play for fun they play to win.

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                                      • Look at what they killed in marathon and you will clearly see what they can’t balance in this game. The TTK is slower and the weapons more clunky. They greatly limit movement abilities because that is used to create an insurmountable skill gap by highly skilled players that drives other players completely out of playlists. Do I think marathon will find favour because of this? Not likely. Once you can fly who wants to walk.

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