Ah yes, lets focus PVP around the people who don't like PVP.

Yes, by all means, let's cater to the people who play crucible "from time to time." While we're at it, you know as a PvP'er I think Raids and GMs are way too hard for the casual PvE'er like me. You should make those way easier too. Sounds fair to me. Stupid, but fair.

Translated:"I'm bad(and there's nothing wrong with that, almost everyone was bad at a certain time)but I want to win as better players do, please Bungie help me because is not fair that people better than me won more than me, even if I know that I am a "less skilled" player and I spent less time and effort in the game than people who are better than me. I wanna feel strong and boost my stats in a mode that I almost never played(and most of all a mode where there is not any reward for winning) but without putting any effort to improve, ruining the experience of players that liked the game and spent time to improve keeping the mode alive for years." This thing that being a" less skilled player" is like a authorization to claim for everything you want and most of all, that everything you say is the correct thing, is getting out of hand and is ruining any pvp game/mode.

At what cost? How much more you're playing the crucible? Have you now become a PvP main? To give you a few more enjoyable matchs, Bungie ruined the experience for PvP mains. Those who love It, and played thousand of hours of it, and invested all their time improving at it, seeking information though midia about every little detail. And I dare to say, spending even more time at PvE seeking their builds, and PERFRCT rolls. It's not fair. You're playing and enjoyin a few more matchs? I'm not playing the game at all.

I too feel the same way as the OP (before you check I play a lot of PvP). I think what’s happening is that there are a lot of mid PvP’ers that think they’re gods because they used to be able to farm people like me and the OP. The truly god like PvP players can still drop we rans (Coolguy for example). Maybe the mid-PvP’ers need to get gud in their skill bracket.

I’m glad you’re enjoying it. I play or should I say “Played” D2 for PvP. I’d only do PvE for Godrolls to use in PvP. I have 6000+ hours in PvP. I used to play QP through the week and play 200+ Trial games ever weekend and loved Iron Banner. Now I’ve basically quit playing because of SBMM, Pulse/Scout (Mainly DMT because that gun is the closest things to actually hacking), Flawless Pool and other busted things in the sandbox just creating the most boring and depressing experience Before ANYONE says it, IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH WANTING TO STOMP BAD PLAYERS”. SBMM only benefits the bottom tier players to the below average, but for ABOVE AVERAGE to rue top 10 to 15% it’s absolutely miserable. SBMM don’t really work in P2P games, but especially don’t with lower population. SBMM has been removed 3 other times all sharing similar issues. The Dwindling Population and once again we’re experiencing it. This has been backed up by Charlemagne, Steam Numbers, and other sites. For MOST OF US our issues are: 
1. A lot of our lower skilled friends no longer wanting to play mode with SBMM because of how miserable the whole experience is. 
 2. It’s the 5 to 10 min OR LONGER queue times just to play unplayable players across the world that play like absolutely lane holding scummy rats. 3. No where for better players to relax and play. I’ll say it again. FOR MOST IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NOT WANTING TO PLAY PLAYERS IN OUR SKILL BRACKET. I mean for god sakes MOST of us go out of OUR WAY to play Scrims/Customs AGAINST GOOD PLAYERS. How most of us improved: 1. We researched the best builds 2. We went out of our way to play better players because that is the best and quickest way to improve. It’s something I’ve personally done since Halo 2 and I played Football my whole life. “Iron sharpens Iron. 
SBMM does not belong in Unranked modes and especially not games that still are P2P. This change has impacted the dedicated PvP mains who spend 90% of their time in PvP the most which is absolutely bullshit lol. But the past 2 years Bungie has been ruining the game for us from SBMM, AE, Slide nerf, and etc 
 Unranked Modes - Should be 3 or 4 Social Modes that use strictly PURE CBMM. Ranked Modes - 3 or 4 Ranked modes using Rank Based Matchmaking (RBMM) with a Visual Rank. Millions of D2 Players who are mostly below average to slightly above average. There is only a few thousand players that are Top 15% which makes them rare to run into, yet Casuals screamed that all they played is 2.0’s, 3.0’s, and better all the time which is the biggest freaking exaggeration. Ending off with this note. At least during CBMM it was more fair because EVERY PLAYER received fast queue times, better connections, and could play with their friends. It was playable for EVERYONE, but now it’s unplayable for those of us in the Top 15%. About a year or so before they reimplemented SBMM Bungie implemented “Lobby Balancing” which was made to manipulate Matchmaking and forge a 50/50 Win/Loss rate and that’s when the drastic uptick in complaints started. Before that it was Pure CBMM and sure there were complaints, but uncommon.

Your enjoyable experience comes at the cost of someone else's enjoyment. I'm happy you're enjoying the pvp changes, though, genuinely. Hopefully the bad players stick around and actually play enough pvp to justify the changes.

The OP is either lying, or he’s delusional. Right now there is “loose SBMM”, but he’s actually performing worse than when there wasn’t SBMM. His warlock is a .82 overall, and this season he’s getting farmed with a .64 KD. I personally don’t care if there’s some form of SBMM, as long as the connections aren’t as bad like they have been this season.

I find it hilarious that everyone who supports SBMM has a low win rate. I sense confirmation bias.... Bungie could probably say they removed SBMM while not actually removing it, and all of you would unhinge your jaws all over again.

SBMM is probably the worst thing bungie ever did to PvP.

I respect your post but I just clicked on your bungie profile to have a look at your seasonal stats to see how sbmm was treating you and [b]you have a 16% seasonal crucible win rate[/b]. My math isnt strong but isnt that 1.6 out of 10 matches? How can you say that sbmm is serving you well? You deserve better. I think the whole praising of sbmm is a psychological thing, rather than a tangible difference maker in matches- in that- some people will perform the same regardless.

I think for those that don’t normally play GMs that they should lower the power differential by 15 and take out all champs and negative modifiers. It only makes sense for those that aren’t good at PvE.

You had an .84 KD before SBMM and after you have .60 you are delusional

I'm loving SBMM! I went from a .8 kd under cbmm to a kd of 1.2 thus season because of sbmm. The only one's complaining are sweats who want to stomp noobs.