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10/26/2022 7:19:48 PM
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Top 24 EXOTICS used, Warlocks have.....3 of them?
I'm a Warlock mian, love me some Warlock, but the data that Trials report is releasing really shows you how limited the options really are in higher end PvP.
Trials report has been releasing a ton of data, from Exotics used, Subclass statistics and it's really interesting data.
The TOP 24 EXOTICS used in Trials for players 2.0+ k/d breaks down like this;
Hunter - 12
Titans - 9
Warlocks - 3
And it's not like these exotics do anything magical either;
Ophidian - Great Exotic, but it's just Synthoceps with Outlaw / Quickdraw built in
Transersives - Once again, basically stompees but it'll reload your gun. Hope you're not using
Hawkmoon!
Astrocyte Verse - just gives your the blink the Arc hunters already have naturally. YAY!
No invis, no seeing through walls, no immediate damage increases, no shoot through shields, no 1-hit melee guarantee, no damage block ricochet shield.
Just some quality of life improvements.
I might have alittle bias since my main is a Warlock, but this data has really shed a light on how under represented and separated we are from our titan and warlock brethren.
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Maybe start waiting for bungie to buff 26 exotics like they said a few TWABs back and stop crying? Sheesh. You guys were all deep silent the last five years when it was the other way around and warlocks ruled all PvE content and dawnblade was OP in PvP. Now one and a half season you guys loosing your mind. Pathetic
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Editado por WulfPak666: 10/29/2022 7:15:38 AMIt's quite simple actually, 99% of Warlock exotics are either passive based on an ability that make it slightly better, require you to actually do something to get it rolling or just make a sh*t super less sh*t. 99% of those are basically PvE exclusive as most requires kills in abundance, hence the best ones are ones that just work for having them on, ours just so happen to be 2 movement exotics and 1 handling exotic. Hunter's and Titans both have great exotics that pair with their class abilities which are generally better than rift in high end pvp or pvp in general. They also have exotics that greatly increase the lethality of their melee and/or grenade that typically make them a consistent 1hk. But some odd reason, to nobodies surprise, despite Bungie nerfed damage buffs in pvp they also seem to consistently gives certain classes some kind of exotic that gives them a flat damage buff for doing next to nothing and those will always be GOAT in pvp. Oh, or a way for them to spam their class ability way more than should be intended. Whatcha gonna do? That and overall Warlock didn't get much in terms of the 3.0 reworks. All the really good perks we had got nerfed and handed out to the other classes but our core kit didn't get much changes or gameplay adjustments whatsoever in comparison to the Hunter and Titan. The only good builds on Warlock are the exact same ones we were using in 2.0 🤷
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12 RespuestasIt's not their fault you Warlock "mains" don't know how to use your class
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3 RespuestasI'm a warlock main and honestly the whole class 3.0 is kinda a joke to warlock While they are good...they are not as close as good as hunters or titans Solar it split up 3 thing that should have been in 1 package ,the healing rift didn't got update to work with the new key word Arc super are still bad ,gave ionic trace to other class and the gain better ability when charged is only for melee....which is a big miss no charged super or grenade ? Void is fine...a bit slow compared to other class but it does whay it need to do well....but again they gave devour the good thing about warlock to other class Seriously all 3 class rework just gave Warlock tools to other class while other class good stuff don't got share....like seriously why all class can get devour but not sunspot ? And then there's the exotics which hasn't been updated or those that did got worst ...
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23 RespuestasThats because most of those warlock exotics are good for everything. Ophidians do literally everything needed for pvp. Snapshot. Quickdraw . Fastest reload. Longer melee range.
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Dude, Astrocyte is much better than hunter blink or default void.
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6 RespuestasEditado por The icon of sin: 10/28/2022 12:27:00 PMWarlocks are sleeping on "rain of fire". Running it with vex mytho is just insanely good. Basicly double rampage on a kill, it makes you radiant on kill, its super easy to combo the bonus damage with other weapons. Edit: from the comments on the post, i can make a observation. Most of you dont know how to make a build. Takes a bit effort, trying out and practise and from my observation people dont look like they willing to do that. The top exotics are mostly general-use crutch exotics that require little thought to use.
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1 RespuestaWhat about an exotic that made your healing or empowering rift 50% bigger? Then nerfed to 25% of course 3 months later.
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19 RespuestasJust gonna point out a bias in your data here, there are more hunter players than there are titan players, and there are more titan players than there are warlock players. Therefore, you are naturally going to get numerically more of the exotics from those first two classes being used, it's not necessarily about some exotics being better than others, but rather it's about the sheer number of players. If you wanted better statistics on which exotics are falling behind based on used you would need to compare how many people use each exotic to how many people are using the class.
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1 RespuestaThere is no reason to use anything other than Ophidians and Transversives... Sadly ...
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17 Respuestaswarlocks dont rely on exotics to be great / to spam abilities etc.. Hunters and titans does.
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I made a post about warlocks being the weakest class not too long ago and all the responses were just stating that I sucked. Which, I do, but it’s still a fact.
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6 RespuestasPlease Buff Warlocks [spoiler]it’s the only way to get them to shut up[/spoiler]
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2 RespuestasBecause warlocks only have 3 exotics that can really be used in pvp.
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1 RespuestaSad that I wasn’t surprised at all that hunters had the most with the best synergy in the game? Problem is that they make up way to much of the player base of PVP for bungie to do anything to them cause their numbers of pvp players would drop faster then Kanye’s net worth(yes Kanye fans are hunter mains, it’s a joke btw). Invisibility is the most potent ability in pvp probably next to dodge. Both of which are hunter only abilities, what a shock! Whatever side of the fence you’re on in this situation, I am fully aware that hunters will always be the superior class, numbers don’t lie. I’m sorry to my titan and warlock mains out there but that have to compete against the “I have no skill therefore cheese” type of players. Sadly I’m an old washed up veteran who’s been here since the beginning and there has been little to no change over the years to balance their abilities when compared to the other two classes. The argument is getting old, the game is getting old, and I’m getting old. But yes as I’ve said in the past, either bring up the other two classes to compete or bring hunters in line with the other two. BALANCE
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I swear they Nerf ophidians I quit the only exotic that doesnt make me vomit at how situational or downright garbage they are in the game in both pve or pvp
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6 RespuestasEditado por Sutter Cane: 10/27/2022 7:05:37 PMCan you hear that? Yeah that's the sound of Bungie not giving a -blam!- & thinking of new ways to make the Warlock worse. But go ahead & buy Lightfall where they said in the reveal that Hunters were going to be the only one with the spiderman ability where they spent time animating a new super for both Titan & Hunter. They also said they were MOST excited for the Hunter super. What did they do for the Warlock? You guessed it use the same animation as Nova Bomb, Cataclysm, & Chaos Reach but THIS time its green! You happy Warlocks? You feel the absolute love?
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3 RespuestasYup lock main here been saying that since the beginning of D2.
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1 RespuestaWelcome to destiny my friend lol
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6 RespuestasConsidering that Ophidians give 4 passive buffs with absolutely no drawback. Yeah, no -blam!- that warlocks aren't using anything else. Nerf ophidians and maybe you'll get your wish of exotic diversity among warlocks.
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For everyone saying Warlocks don't need them or they have better abilities here's a link showing the stats on how little Warlocks are being used at all in PvP. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/261952379?sort=0&page=0
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3 RespuestasWarlocks are the least played class(around 24%) so it’s normal that your exotics are less used. Plus ophidians is probably the best exotic in the game, they give you a lot of bonuses that no other exotic gives.
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8 RespuestasEditado por High Charity: 10/26/2022 7:59:47 PMYeah bungie already nerfed the best hunter (and most fun titan) exotics into the ground so you're seeing a democratization of kits. Warlocks have not had that nerf, despite what your flawed perception tells you. Ergo, exotic usage is more concentrated to the top. Example- Stompees vs Ophidians Stomps are not nearly as usable anymore and thus have dropped in use. Ophidians got a buff while having the same usage and being just as strong. Ophidians remain one of the most used Warlock exotics.
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19 RespuestasSo you basically want to be a warlock and have hunter or titan abilities because clearly the sorcerer should be a tanky assassin too right? C'mon go play another fps that has no variety. Maybe then you can see it's a skill issue instead of a class issue.
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6 RespuestasEditado por NotCreative123: 10/27/2022 4:29:07 PMThis is such an illogical way to interpret the data. You may as well have not mentioned it at all I guess numbers are hard and all that, but still. Could've tried
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1 RespuestaNerf Ophidians. Would be funny to read the posts lol
