Something I am tired of hearing is "I don't like this because of their fans". -blam!- that. I will admit I fall victim to it. I don't like Taylor Swift. Is a large portion of that because her fans are the most annoying fans on earth? yes, but also her music and career is built on perpetuating her status as a 'victim' and -blam!- that. Besides, most of her stuff uses worship music cords and melodies. L+Ratio on her whole catalogue. That said, there is no legitimate reason to disengage from something of quality because you hate the fan base and don't want to be associated with them. Get over yourself. No one truly cares about any of that -blam!-. Here is my biggest example. I like Fortnite. The gameplay loop is very good, concept is solid, and the game is fair. Especially since they brought out zero build. It is definitely a good game, but I know too many people who claim that it's stupid and childish, or that the fans are cringe and you don't want to play a game frequented by squeakers, homeschoolers, and freshmen. Bruh, if you are going to stop playing a game because of the aesthetics, fans, or the association, you are lame. I bet half of y'all still play COD. It has the same problems (plus an actual play to win issue but y'all are not ready for that conversation) except the graphic design but y'all are like hurr-durr blood make things better. get over yourself. If your sense of self worth is so fragile that you will not engage with good things because of a fear of association with 'cringe' you have a problem. Stop freaking identifying yourself with larger 'communities' and lean into your individual identity. Look, You are You. You are not Other People, and while You may share things in common with Other People, You are STILL YOU. So play Fortnite if you want to, don't hide behind the fear of being 'judged' or something. Why fear people who can do absolutely -blam!- to you?