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9/8/2021 11:52:39 PM
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It Feels Like We're Just A Passenger In This Season's Story

I really wish we (or our ghost) had some spoken lines this season. We're essentially Crow's mentor/best friend/older brother (essentially what Cayde was to us, we are to Crow) and I just find it unfortunate that we can't really interact with him outside of hearing him vent his frustrations. Don't get me wrong, I love his interactions this season, but I hate that we (or our ghost) isn't saying [i]anything[/i] to him. We essentially sit back while Petra insults him, Mara Sov attempts to manipulate him and belittles him behind closed doors (calling him pathetic and expressing vaguely envious disgust that he emotionally depends on Glint and us), and while Savathun tries to win him over. I wish we could defend Crow in his conversations with Petra. I wish we could call out Mara for being an emotionally abusive sibling who treats him as if he's something she can take and toss aside as she pleases. I understand all of this is likely part of a big setup for the events of Witch Queen, I just wish we could do something other than just shoot at things and jump.
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  • Totally agree. I don’t know why people -blam!- for Mara, as she is narcissistic and opportunistic as well as being a flat out jerk. She obviously sees herself as higher than everybody else, and she abused and manipulated her brother until he literally went insane. She doesn’t care about her people and just uses them because they follow her blindly. I can understand Petra’s anger toward Crow, because she doesn’t know Crow like we do. All she sees is the man who killed her friend and betrayed her people. Mara understands that Crow is not Uldren, but still attempts to take advantage of him knowing that he is naive enough for her to manipulate. Honestly, I hope that Mara just dies and that Petra takes her place as Queen of the Reef

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    • Editado por BIRB: 9/11/2021 12:29:27 AM
      I wish I could tell crow it’s probably for the better he doesn’t talk to savathûn. He looks up to our guardian and “Osiris” so it’s only natural that we would be there and support crow now that he doesn’t have Osiris. He looks up to us so he would trust our judgement. He probably just doesn’t like having two seemingly entitled awoken strangers setting up camp in the city telling him what he can and can’t do.

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    • [quote]I really wish we (or our ghost) had some spoken lines this season.[/quote] No thanks. Stoic as always is the best guardian. Let them guess what I'm thinking.

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    • I 100% agree

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    • i wouldn't defend crow, he's acting Stupid. Crow is very Manipulative, Young Guardian(aka a Child). if Crow gets anywhere near Savathun, its going to backfire.

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      • [quote]I really wish we (or our ghost) had some spoken lines this season. We're essentially Crow's mentor/best friend/older brother (essentially what Cayde was to us, we are to Crow) and I just find it unfortunate that we can't really interact with him outside of hearing him vent his frustrations. Don't get me wrong, I love his interactions this season, but I hate that we (or our ghost) isn't saying [i]anything[/i] to him. We essentially sit back while Petra insults him, Mara Sov attempts to manipulate him and belittles him behind closed doors (calling him pathetic and expressing vaguely envious disgust that he emotionally depends on Glint and us), and while Savathun tries to win him over. I wish we could defend Crow in his conversations with Petra. I wish we could call out Mara for being an emotionally abusive sibling who treats him as if he's something she can take and toss aside as she pleases. I understand all of this is likely part of a big setup for the events of Witch Queen, I just wish we could do something other than just shoot at things and jump.[/quote] The Crows mentor, that was osiris. The Crows best friend, speak for yourself The Crows older brother... Hahaha ha. Oh that's a good one.

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        • Editado por Pharaoh Rising: 9/10/2021 2:09:18 AM
          I love it. I still hate Uldren/Crow. I love Petra’s insults and Mara using him 🤣, just how it should be!

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          • Just let me go into a hot tub with Mara & Petra and I'll not complain...ever.✌️

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            • We're the ones dealing with the shattered realm and restoring the ley lines while rescuing techeuns. We're not a passenger.........we're the heavy lifter. We do the hard work while they all -blam!- amongst themselves.

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            • If they give your character more agency/interaction you'd just see a deluge of people saying "I hate when they make my character say things I wouldn't say, it's so immersion breaking yadda yadda" Bungie can't win on this one. I personally agree with you and would prefer a more engaged story from the protag perspective as it's a game/entertainment to me.

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              • i haven't paid close attention to the story for years, but knowing that edgelord is being abused gives me some satisfaction.

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              • You are a passenger. Through the entire thing. Theres no single player story any more, Just small events. Destiny 2 Y1 was as close to an actual game as it had. Gutting D2 has only facilitated Destiny losing players over time. They like to claim every season they got more people but the numbers simply arent there.

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                • Aren't all the season like that? Witness, do not involve. Wish we had even a poorly designed choice illusion like system as the one in fallout 4 where your choices don't really have repercussions but at least you can tell momma murphy to not do drugs xD I would tell Petra to cut Crow's throat, she won't of course because of Bungo storytelling but hey i could see what she thinks of that(killing uldren sov 2.0) instead of speculating on her thoughts.

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                  • Uldren has been an annoying whiny character since we first met him in D1. I hope the season ends with Petra and I shooting Uldren again....and his ghost.

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                    • Editado por Lord of the Bullets: 9/10/2021 1:09:42 AM
                      I hate how this game turned into a soap opera. Right around the time that they brought Saint-14 into the mix, something just hasn't been sitting right with me. And what up with Hunter Vanguard? The master race needs new representation.

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                      • I have no idea what the story is about 🤣 I have zero patience for cut scenes, I just want to play the game.

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                        • I just hope crow tells Mara to piss off..

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                        • Almost like bungie wont change until it gets some fps fantasy scope competition in the market.

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                        • id never felt like this in d1, perhaps becuse it always felt like you were beinh sent out on a mission by someone else, you werent in a position to make decisions. But the characters now emphasise engaging with you as if youre a position of authority who can, so its sort of a problem when u cant respond. Id love if there were perhaps just a few dialogue options you can choose throughout a conversation, even if it has no bearing on the story outside of changing what voicelines u get to hear from a character. 3 voicelines and u cant change ur choice. cept by playing again on ur 2nd and 3rd character. Id be totally down for having some genuine decisions for the character which are decided by a vote among all players. Highest option being true and continued through everyone's story. But the writing team might be able to prepare a better story by just doing it themselves like they currently do. And some people could get annoyed when their character acts differently to how they want (personally, i dont really identify with my guardian much anyway so making them more of a character by saceificing self insert-ability is fine). Most important of all is that we get tricked by savathun. I dont want players making decisions if we're collectively smart enough to not get tricked. On the other hand, if we're dumb enough to fall hook line and sinker, actually making choices and getting the wrong ones would be sooo delicious.

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                        • always has been

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                        • Editado por Kyuss: 9/10/2021 12:06:59 PM
                          It's not just this season, as the other guys are saying here. It's the fact that in Destiny we have only been watching a story (very convoluted until a few seasons ago) with no reactions or choices of our own. I only remember one time that we had to choose: it was whether to side with Dredgen or with the Vanguard, and even that turned out to be completely inconsequential & without any actual differences. It felt like a small experiment by Bungie that they decided to scrap, with us going back to being treated like only a viewer that shoots stuff. Don't get me wrong, I am starting to like the story & I am becoming more interested in it as I find it starts to get the cohesion it lacked. But this still doesn't change at all Bungie's choice of us as a simple viewer.

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                        • But you see that’s the problem, I would have taken Petra’s side. Crow is a whiny little **** whose been promoted heavily above his station. Crow is supposed to be a controversial character, and as the game doesn’t offer multiple choices in the same was as say Skyrim, Bungie probably are doing the right thing in not forcing the guardian into a side

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                          • I'd be fine with us not speaking if the cutscenes had us actually do something, I genuinely don't remember the last time the player did something in a cutscene, except stare at the person who is talking.

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                          • Personally, I prefer it like this. We aren't the one true chosen Guardian who will save humanity. We're an army. This is an MMO and we all work together. Besides, chosen one stories are so overdone

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                          • Editado por Roach: 9/10/2021 5:41:06 AM
                            Its a bit ironic that woke Bungie are pursuing a storyline where two women bully a white bloke. I have a tenner bet with a mate that Mara and Petra will be a couple by the end of the season after bonding over their disdain of Uldren. It will all start with Petra appearing to fix Mara's photocopier and then removing some clothing because she is a bit hot .. *cue 70's guitar music* Call me nuts but this season I am routing for Savathun. She seems smarter than all the other characters put together. Including us. I for one welcome our new light toting Hive overlords. #TeamSavathun

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                            • There’s a story?

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