Not even joking, it depends on who you find. Just last night I joined a fireteam of new players starting out VoG but we all knew the basic mechanics thanks to D1. One of my fireteam friends joined in and boy was he a blessing. He made me, a new player that haven't used the relic of years, use it. Now I made mistakes a long the way and it took us around 6 to 7 runs since each of us were messing up, but I always blamed myself with things like, "damn it, I should've gotten to that teleport faster", but the dude was so chill and we managed to complete it.
Then comes Atheon and holy was the fight a pain in the butt. I was 1308 at the time and it was such hell dealing with mob clears but the dude was patient with us. We messed up on oracles a lot, even with the oracle pattern he drew for us but we managed to get the hang of it after 6 to 8 runs. The damage was lacking but it was understandable as me and another individual was low light level without good gear for damage, heck I was using a machine gun just for oracles and the boss. I thought I should just leave and let someone else fill for me, but the man continued to tell us, "we got it this run guys, you guys are doing fine". We finally finished the run and man was it a blast. That one guy was probably the most patient and helpful individual I met till date.
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