Well at least you made your own group. But you're not saying anything holy unique here. You're going to find jerks on the internet. This is basically your whole topic summed up: We raided with two extras from lfg and they were jerks. I don't like it when people are jerks. 👏👏👏 Move on man and just keep rolling until you find people that aren't jerks. On a more general note the forum posts about vog use buzzwords like anxiety and toxicity etc etc. I'm beginning to wonder if the lot of you are reading each other's posts and just writing similar stories and hoping something gets through. [i]To all of you[/i] Just cut the people out that are being jerks and find other people doing the raid. Expect 4 to 5 hours of commitment for teams that are subpar. Get a dedicated team and enjoy the time you have with them.