This is a great post and highlights the fact that in order to keep the game meta healthy they will need to add more weapons, both the new ones from Europa as well as re-issue ones from previous seasons. I get the feeling a lot of the year 1 Vanguard, Crucible and world vendor weapons will be returning to the loot pool, as will some of the year 2 weapons when they need to fill an elemental niche within a weapon type. For example, as of year 4 there will be no void linear fusion rifles which makes me think they will bringing the Crooked Fang into year 4. My other reasoning for this is that it increases the number of potential weapons that they can cycle back in. I am also inclined to think that any of the weapons with curated rolls, so the Dreaming City, Lost Forges, Gambit/Reckoning, Nightfall and Altars of Sorrow weapons will remain. The reasoning behind this is that whilst D2 is free to play much of the content in Forsaken and Shadowkeep is not and so to remove the viability of those weapons from the people who have paid for the right to use them in any content that they chose to use them in would be unfair. Now with regards to the unique swords that we get from the Menagerie we have one more type of Umbral engram coming that I think will give us a chance to re-acquire those weapons. They will also have to make the Drang and the MIDA Mini-tool available as those weapons are a part of the way you use the Sturm and the MiDA Multi-tool, the Drang is in fact needed to complete the Sturm Catalyst.

Definitely not first. Thanks for this.

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how horrible

[quote]Hey everyone, For folks out there getting ahead of the game on end game viable weapons for sunsetting coming this fall with Beyond Light, I wanted to share this list of currently in game obtainable weapons so people can start getting ahead before big changes are made. Here are a couple questions below if you're confused: [quote][b]What do you mean "weapon sunsetting"? [/b] [quote][url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49027]Bungie announced recently that all Legendary Gear will have a Max Power Level for that gear[/url], which is now visible in game, minus a few bugs that will be addressed. IE - Legendary gear can only be infused to a specific limit. [/quote] [b]Does this impact everything across Destiny? [/b] [quote]No. Bungie has emphasized that this will affect "end game" activities and activities/quests where power matters. So, no, this will not impact ALL activities within Destiny 2. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/49106]Bungie has an official support article on Max Power Level located here[/url] [/quote] [b]Will my gear get deleted? [/b] [quote][b][u]No[/b][/u]. Your gear is yours to keep, Bungie does not delete anything from your inventory, that's on you to manage it. [/quote] [b]Why should I care about gear sunsetting? [/b] [quote]This is a direction that Bungie is taking Destiny 2 to keep the end game activities fresh and an evolving meta, for both PvP as well as PvE ([url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/48758]Luke Smith talks more about this here[/url]). If you intend to participate in any end game activities (Raids, Dungeons, Nightfalls, Nightmare Hunts, Trials etc) or some of the latest content/quests where power matters, you should probably pay attention to what gear will be rotating in and out. [/quote] [b]Will I be able to tell in game when a gear piece is "sunset"? [/b] [quote][b][u]Yes[/b][/u]. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/49106]As announced in this article[/url], there will be a visual indicator where the "icon colors" are inverted when a piece is "rotated out". Gear that is "currently in" the Max Power Level requirements, will appear as normal. [/quote][/quote] --- The following list is [b]as of Season 12 [/b]of Destiny 2. These weapons will be able to infuse to maximum power for endgame content that that have been confirmed so far (June 2020). In addition to the current list here, you will see more added as we move later into Season 11 and Season 12: - Unannounced Season 11 Weapons, have yet to be added - Season 12 Weapons - Has yet to be added - Year 4 (S12) Raid Weapons - Has yet to be added You can see Bungie's Official Article on Max Power Level and Infusion here : [url]https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/49106[/url] [b]Max Power Level Infusion Rules: [/b] [quote]1. Once a piece of legendary gear is first released, it is fully infusable to the highest power level for [b]4 full seasons[/b] (including it's release). 2. [b]Exotics [/b]are exempt, they have no cutoff from infusion. 3. [b]Raid Gear[/b] (Weapons and Armor) from [b]Last Wish[/b] and [b]Garden of Salvation[/b] will be retroactively updated and infusable up to S14 levels ([url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49276]this was announced here[/url]). Armor from all other current raids will be retroactively updated to S14 Levels. More information in Bungie's article linked above. 4. Once a piece of gear is rotated/archived "out", you can still use that gear in most activities, just not pinnacle end game activities.[/quote] --- [b]AUTORIFLES[/b] [quote]Age Old Bond (Last Wish) Reckless Oracle (Garden of Salvation) False Promises (S11) The Forward Path (S11 Iron Banner) Gnawing Hunger (S11) The Summoner (S10 Trials) Seventh Seraph Carbine (S10) Steelfeather Repeater (S9) - Rotates out in S13 Uriels Gift (S9) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]SCOUT RIFLES [/b] [quote]Transfiguration (Last Wish) Night Watch (S11) Talons of the Eagle (S11 Iron Banner) The Scholar (S10 Trials) Patron of the Lost Causes (S9) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]PULSE RIFLES[/b] [quote]Chattering Bone (Last Wish) Sacred Providence (Garden of Salvation) Cold Denial (S11) Last Perdition (S11) Jian-7 (S10) Infinite Paths 8 (S9) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]HAND CANNONS[/b] [quote]Nation of Beasts (Last Wish) Ancient Gospel (Garden of Salvation) IKELOS_HC_V1.0.2 (S11 Dungeon) Crimil’s Dagger (S11 Iron Banner) Nature of the Beast (S11) Seventh Seraph Officer Revolver (S10) Dire Promise (S10) True Prophecy (S10) Jack Queen King 3 (S9) - Rotates out in S13 The Old Fashioned (S9) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]SMG[/b] [quote]Death Adder (S11 Dungeon) Seraph VY-7 (S10) Escape Velocity (S10) Cold Front (S9 Dawning) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]SIDEARMS[/b] [quote]The Fool's Remedy (S11 Iron Banner) The Last Dance (S11) Lonesome (S11) Enigmas Draw (S10) Seraph SI-2 (S10) Breechlight (S9) - Rotates out in S13 Travelers Judgement 5 (S9) - Rotates out in S13 Buzzard (S9) - Rotates out in S13 Last Hope (S9) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]BOWS[/b] [quote]Tyranny of Heaven (Last Wish) Accrued Redemption (Garden of Salvation) The Whispering Slab (S11) Arsenic Bite-4b (S11) Point of the Stag (S10 Iron Banner) The Vow (S9/Crimson Days) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]SHOTGUNS[/b] [quote]Prophet of Doom (Garden of Salvation) IKELOS_SG_v1.0.2 (S11 Dungeon) Toil and Trouble (S11) Astral Horizon (S10 Trials) Felwinters Lie (S10) Seventh Seraph CQC-12 (S10) Perfect Paradox (S9) - Rotates out in S13 Python (S9) - Rotates out in S13 Hawthornes field-forged (S9) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]LIGHT GRENADE LAUNCHER [/b] [quote]Orewing’s Maul (S11 Iron Banner) Truthteller (S11) Martyrs Retribution (S9) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]FUSION RIFLE[/b] [quote]Techaun Force (Last Wish) Zealots Reward (Garden of Salvation) Hollow Words (S11) Main Ingredient (S11) Exiles Curse (S10 Trials) Timelines' Vertex (S10) Gallant Charge (S9) - Rotates out in S13 Elatha FR-4 (S9) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]SNIPER RIFLE[/b] [quote]The Supremacy (Last Wish) Omniscient Eye (Garden of Salvation) Widow's Bite (S11 - Dungeon) Long Shadow (S11) Bite of the Fox (S11 Iron Banner) Eye of Sol (S10 Trials) Distant Tumulus (S10) Trophy Hunter (S9) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]SWORDS[/b] [quote]Temptation's Hook (S11) Falling Guillotine (S11) Negative Space (S11 Dungeon) Steel Sybil Z-14 (S11) Honors Edge (S10)[/quote] [b]HEAVY GRENADE LAUNCHER[/b] [quote]Swarm of the Raven (S11 Iron Banner) Outrageous Fortune (S11) Interference VI (S10)[/quote] [b]ROCKET LAUNCHER[/b] [quote]Apex Predator (Last Wish) Hoosegow (S11 Dungeon) Shining Sphere (S11 Iron Banner) Bad Omens (S11) Tomorrow’s Answer (S10 Trials) Mos Epoch III (S9) - Rotates out in S13 Pyroclastic Flow (S9) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]LINEAR FUSION RIFLE[/b] [quote]Line in the Sand (S9) - Rotates out in S13 Komodo-4FR (S9) - Rotates out in S13[/quote] [b]HEAVY MACHINE GUN[/b] [quote]Seventh Seraph SAW (S10) Avalanche (S9 Reissue/Dawning) - Rotates out in S13[/quote][/quote] So no good, snipers, hcs, heavy machine guns or rocket launchers. Eat a bag of dicks.

What a trash piece. Sunsetting needs to be an abolished idea, plain and simple. Get this useless guide off the forums and start supporting your community by getting sunsetting axed. What a joke.

Good, you made my decision crystal clear. This company blows.

Wow, Spawn. I appreciate your being forthright and directly delivering such terrible news. This is just depressing.

This just sucks, knowing all the guns I earned are gonna be useless soon :(

This list just shows me even more that sunsetting is truly a stupid idea and that lukes vision is for players to just keep re-earning the same shit over and over again. So disappointed. This season is even worse than last season. My clan still wont touch the game and how can i say "hey guys come play iron banner this week so you can get more year 1 weapons and armor. It is like a bad joke now.

No thanks I'll wait till sunsetting gets sunset.

Ah, shut it. So glad we have five friggin Kinetic Scout rifles and not one single Energy Scout. So freaking neglected we can’t get a buff, and now they’re just being forcibly yeeted out of endgame.

Times must be hard if you’ve gone from Social Justice Ninja to messenger boy instead of Cozmo or Dmg. Oh well. You know the old saying “Don’t shoot the messenger”? A better question we should ask is how good are you at dodging?

So we basically have no options left