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Discusión sobre Destiny 2
Editado por xbroggiex: 4/12/2020 11:35:03 PM
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What is this? People finally realising D2 is a pile of garbage?

Damn, finally some of the bootlickers finally have realised this game is about as compelling as taking chewed chewing gum from the underside of a table and begin chewing it yourself, gotta recycle that chewing gum like content! I've given up giving detailed constructive criticism because Bungie doesn't seem to listen to anyone who does, or if they "do" then its mostly a vague "pass the feedback to the team" copy paste bullshit line. But just because I feel it prudent to at least give some criticism to the game. 1. Shadowkeep was recycled garbage. 2. Seasons are trash and a new model needs to be made for more DLC expansions like we had before even if there is less of them in a year. 3. Not enough QoL updates actually we haven't gotten that many at all. 4. Rewards system needs a complete rework. EDIT: Since I found one of my older posts with constructive criticism I shall put it here for those that want to read it. [spoiler]I've loved Destiny since the very beginning and the world was fantastic and the enemies just look great and really felt like cool enemies to fight like the Fallen, there were very low lows in Destiny since its release with D1 Y1 but the game started to ramp up with TTK and RoI and then it went back to somewhere even lower than D1 Y1 with D2 Y1. Forsaken fixed a lot of issues and was getting Destiny 2 close to the verge of actually being a game worth playing... then SK and these "seasons" happened, these have completely ruined the game. Why bother playing the game when content has an expiry date and you can't play it anymore, for -blam!-s sake even the gear is going to have an expiry date! I feel no reason to log in to the game anymore as my time doesn't feel like its going to be respected by Bungie. Shadowkeep was the writing on the wall honestly about how this game is going to continue going down hill unless some very obvious things are done... 1. Major QoL updates like grabbing certain core playlist activity bounties from orbit for example, maybe also adding something to the cryptarch which allow for more direct world drop loot farming. Give planetary vendors a D1 like reputation system which would increase with destination specific activities instead of it being token/material dumps. 2. Eververse needs to be removed off the director as it should not be present in something that is meant for gameplay purposes. 3. Seasons need to stop as the content model and Bungie need to focus on more expansion like content drops that can have more unique quality content rather than constant barrage of repeat content with a new skin slapped on it. 4. Total rewards system retooling and rework, strikes need to become more rewarding and need more specific loot drops like D1 had, or give an update to NF loot to bring them up to the current status of gear and give NF specific drops to strikes that don't have one. 5. Power crunch, the numbers are getting a little ridiculous now and I don't see why they didn't fix this with SK with it all now being base 750, Bungie should lower all the power numbers as it is getting a little stupid imo. 6. Bring factions back how they were in D1 but with new systems in place to make them more of a thing that affects the world, maybe having certain ranks with a faction may grant specific bonuses like being rank 50 in New Monarchy would allow you to drop down a tank in specific strikes. Maybe Dead Orbit would allow you to call in air support for strikes or for public events and other destination activities. Maybe FWC would allow you to call in AI frames to take some pressure off of you for a bit during a strike or other activities where its appropriate. 7. Public Events need to be... well events and rewarding ones at that too! Public events would tie into the D1 rep system the planetary vendors would have, but public events would be overhauled to be something that seems of importance. Like There is a giant radiolaria pool on Nessus and we couldn't have some giant Panoptes looking ass rise out of that for a public event and fight it? 8. Patrols why have they been rammed in the arse with a serrated dildo? Patrols in D1 were things you could do and there was a variety of them around the time of RoI, you had blight clear patrols from TTK along with overcharge race patrols to the SIVA Priest patrols in RoI. They sometimes gave more rewards than just glimmer and reputation, like blues or strange coins. In Destiny 2 at the beginning they took forever to pickup and only granted 1 token, some xp and glimmer. Now they are able to be picked up in 1 second like D1 but still have been rammed up the arse much harder with Forsaken, they now only grant 2 materials, some glimmer and xp which is a pitiful reward for the effort put in. For example the kill collect patrols in D1 worked anywhere while in D2 you have to stay in a specific area just to complete it. With the D1 rep system for planetary vendors we would see patrols be played more other than when there is quest requiring their completion. 9. Encounter balancing... people like to harp on about "I only use recluse for everything the gear is the problem!" when it really isn't. The problem isn't the gear but the way the encounters are designed in the game that makes it viable for most things, D1 got around this issue of only using 1 gun by mixing up encounters with mechanics which would make you switch up your weapon loadout. How did they accomplish this? Quite simple really they used range as a way to change up your playstyle. Golgoroth for example is an encounter where you see people frequent with scout rifles because you begin with ad clearing at range, while maybe in totems or warpriest you were using a hand cannon because you were more closer to the enemy. While Destiny 2 on the other hand has made us so tanky and made enemies spawn always within the perfect range for a recluse that its become the norm, SoS is probably the only raid in D2 I have seen mix it up a little with playing on range in some encounters. 10. The final thing that needs fixing... the story telling, ever since the beginning of D1 there has been many problems with story telling it has gotten a bit better since then but it is always coming to one major problem with every plot-line... THEY NEVER GET FINISHED! You want a living breathing world but you are seemingly unable to bring a conclusion to any story arc even ones that are present in the -blam!-ing game like the dreaming city curse![/spoiler] EDIT 2: Bungie wants an evolving breathing living world, how about implementing modes that put this idea into reality? An example I have is of what I think a PvE IB would be like. This idea was from another old post or thing I came up with that I had saved and I decided to share it because why not? [spoiler]* The Iron Guard While you and other guardians were busy shooting each other during Iron Banner, something has stirred in the dark. SIVA has returned again with Fallen leading the charge however this time its different. These Fallen won't stay dead forever and Saladin will call on you when you are needed once again to put a stop to the Fallen. The Iron Guard is a new 9 man PvE activity that takes place on various different locations in the Cosmodrome or new earth area and the EDZ. You and 8 other guardians will need to quell the Fallen before they gain a foot hold. The mode will be designed for a drop in drop out style, as this isn't a traditional horde mode but a tug of war against the Fallen. If they gain ground they will cut off your supply lines and you will get a debuff reducing your material gains for a week. Another consequence of not quelling the SIVA Fallen tide would be they will now walk around public zones and will be tough to kill. There is no definitive "end" to the mode as you will be fighting until all the fallen are dead with it being a community effort to push back the fallen. So as long as there is Fallen to shoot it only ends when you decide to go to orbit. The mode would also have its own specific loot and the PvP IB loot is not earnable from Iron Guard. But this is just an example of how you could make a unique mode that could affect the world and players to actually feel like the enemy is a threat to them. [/spoiler]
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  • Destiny is a good game, the dungeons are challenging, raids are fun to play through no matter who's on your team, pvp is good too casual and comp, i even enjoy doing bounties in patrol, shooting things in general is just fun. The only problem, for me, is how hard it is to level up, I could play destiny hours on end grinding strikes, even heroic missions, if the loot i got wasn't lower level than what i already had

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    • Editado por Infamous067: 4/13/2020 4:09:51 PM
      The game is not garbage, otherwise it would’ve died years ago like anthem. The game is only going through a tough time because of the lack of content and bungies failed involvement in fixing the game as soon as possible. I do understand however the real life is no joke and everyone is working from home but what exactly are they working on? I personally wish the devs would give it to us straight and tell is exactly what it is they are doing in order to fix the game instead of telling us they hear us. I want to get an estimate on how long we gave to deal with the terrible bugs in the game, how long do we have to keep putting up with hackers, how long until we get a new sandbox etc. these are things bungie has always missed out that seriously pisses me off. I have a hard time trusting a company that constantly leaves players out in the dust or blatantly lies to us. They said trials was not going to be half baked, trials instead came out raw like everyone else is saying. Bungie said they had a renewed pvp focus but I have not seen it, what else have they lied about? This always happens, stuff like this happened in D1 and its happening again on D2. I don’t understand how we go up and bungie brings us back down. They go around making changes no one asked for and luke had the audacity to say he knows what players want.

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      • Destiny will forever be the series you look at and think: "man this could have been so damn good"

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        • People that enjoy a game I can't enjoy = bootlikers. Lovely place this Bungie.net forum.

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          • Then why do you keep coming back here if you’ve supposedly given up on it??

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              Learn how to spell, so much hate lol

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              • Because people haven’t been whining about the game constantly for the last six years. -A whiner who still plays the game

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              • While I agree it's total trash rn with no new good content the gunplay is fun so is still play, I mostly play crucible anyways so I don't care of pve is super trash, and I'm not good enough to care about playing trials. I will stay and still have fun but I won't deny that it's in a horrible state year 3

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              • Trolling level has gone down with the lockdown.

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                • If anyone can explain this forum phenomenon of constantly paying to get more of a game you think is garbage, I'd appreciate it.

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                  • Well I and many people still enjoy it . Bungie does suck . They can’t balance their game for shit. but game is still fun to me.

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                  • Omg that actually sounds amazing real price consequences if you fail

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                  • Editado por Tru-Zrue: 4/12/2020 9:14:51 PM
                    That title made me laugh really loud. People are late as hell.

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                    • You say the game is trash, yet you apparently keep coming back to it. You either love hating yourself, or you're just attention seeking. I'm going to assume the later, because you strike me as someone that would call this game trash, and people who enjoy bootlickers, but at the same time your out there riding the d**ks of fortnite and COD.

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                      • Editado por Minty: 4/13/2020 1:52:57 AM
                        To YOU it was bad. And this now is bad to us but very well have a possibility that others may like it. Next time choose your words wisely before throwing slander at people.

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                      • Have you finally realized that you can't spell much better than garbage. Realising or Realizing...🤣 (In B4 OP edit)

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                        • Imagine a world where differnet people enjoy different things 🤔

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                          • Dont like it dont play it simple, who rrally cares if people enjoy it leave them be

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                            • so is fortnite and overwatch to say it's full of toxic players and potty mouthed 11 years olds .

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                              • If you can somehow go back to my comments on here I was calling d2 a piece of shit from week 1 and people were furious. There’s a reason all the good people quit playing after d1 and there are very few veterans left. I would pay to be able to pull up my comments from the first week of d2 till now and just laugh at all the people that defended it

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                              • People are always calling this game trash, but different this time like back when the game was truly dying at D2 vanilla launch. I've given Bungie enough chances though, they keep repeating their same old mistakes over and over. Hey, if you still like it that's great. I'm just saying after over 5 years I've had enough. I don't even know why I've hung around so long, all the real life friends that got me started on this game jumped ship in 2017.

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                                • Nah. It’s been boiling frustration coupled with the carrot hamster chase. The junk has finally hit critical mass and we the player base has had enough. Today is the first day in a long time I didn’t play. Thought about. But my season pass over 100. I’ve done the raid, NF and all other pinnacle activities more than I should. The armor craft looks cool but the work to try and experiment with different stuff is uninspiring.

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                                • Editado por eggs.: 4/12/2020 7:43:37 PM
                                  I actually kind of enjoy this game. I mean, yeah, not a lot of good rewards in Nightfalls, dropping blues like there’s no tomorrow. Lag, cheaters and error coding in Crucible, it’s annoying as all heck. Otherwise, I mean, I still play Nightfalls, even with no loot, and do PvP because I like working in groups. Mostly I enjoy it because of the gun play. I’ve played other 1st Person Shooters, and this one is probably the best. The only thing I really don’t like is weapon retirement. I’ve been grinding for Recluse for a while, cause I’m bad. Now, when I get it, Luke Smith wants to take away one of the best guns in the game I spent 2 months grinding for? Ugh. Luke Smith fix this man, I want to use Recluse a lot, not retire it. If you do retire Guns, you better replace them with something worthwhile, not like this season pass crap. This is just my opinion plz don’t hate :).

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                                  • As someone been maining this game since d1 launch the content doesn’t last long enough. But a player only now buying all the content would have a hell of a game still waiting for them. With seasons removing the content (or lack of it) that they bring it devalues the game overall. I wound have much preferred a updated strike playlist, strike quests etc over the ordeal set up. They could have mixed up the nf by changing the modifiers on the card and added new strikes. The lack of value to core modes right now is bad. The lack of reasons to go into a strike, pvp, gambit match after hitting the power cap don’t exist apart from doing the ancient bounties we’ve got over and over like a zombie. And then their main pve streamers give up on the grind and bungie realise no one is gonna be able to finish gm so nerf it. Again this is lazy 🤦‍♂️

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                                  • I genuinely enjoyed Forsaken and the Annual pass content. Even the Gambit stuff. So D2 hasn't always been bad for me. But Shadowkeep and all 3 seasons thus far have been complete dogs***. I am sorry to the devs that worked hard on this stuff, but it's been complete garbage so far. The only real bright spots so far from Shadowkeep and the last 3 seasons has been the Season of Dawn weapons and the Warden of Nothing NF Ordeal bug. Otherwise everything from weapon balancing, to season pass items, to the content has been either bad or underwhelming.

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                                    • Oh frick off as a Density Zeta player I can tell you that Puke Shit is the godliest being on this Earth and we should worship him and his FOMO celestial being powers. He can choose to destroy you or let you ascend into Bungle’s higher pantheon of Bellevue and you shall now worship him until the end of time or be decimated from the face of reality as we know it. If you ever dare utter a single word of anti-doostiny or anti-bungeee Lukey Dookie Poopie Puke Smith will personally come to your house, devour your wife and children, and as he shits out the mangled remains of your family he will stab his golden razelighter of ultimate FOMO death and destruction up your tightass butthole.

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