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9/10/2019 9:45:28 AM
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Who wrote that fan fiction "a man with no name" (Drifter origin story) ? It's horribly bad..

Drifter is easily the most interessting character in Destiny. And a sort of well sketched out one, too, right next to Ada-1 so i was more than hyped to see that there was a lore book introduced to shine some light on the infamous Drifters backgroundstory and origins. But how i was wrong in expecting some coherent derrivation from where he started to where he is now. just some warnings, this contains spoilers so please be aware of this. the Book starts with seemingly introduction of his Ghost and how it stated that all it did was to look for his "chosen" and how he surprisingly was not only willing to die for him but also to kill for him (no idea how a ghost would do that but , details) The Drifters Story starts with him being resurrected and prompty being a dick. Frowning at his drone, not asking questions but just defying the advice the drone gave him and starting to go, without any sense of direction or idea where he is or was, in the opposite direction of what was indicated where he was supposed to go which also included a brief explanation. Then somehow a Vehicle turns up and crashes next to the drifter and then hurls onto him, crushing him in the impact. The Driver of said vehicle was supposedly having his helmet punctured with a hole of the size of that drone.. needless to say that a ghost (the drone) would easily just rip off the head of any humand if it would have the speed to punch through a helmet. The the Ghost resurrects him and he defies the ghost once more heading to a arbitrary direction away from the proposed path his Ghost gave him.. all while the ghost adjusts his "modular armor".. that whole two article read as if someone completely unfamiliar with the drifter the lore and the destiny universe has written this It's a weird hammered together story bit that lacks every item of story telling.. progression and derrivation.. this is not the story of how the man that was found became the Drifter .. this is how the Drifter was "re" born . the very way he is right now.. Thats not Character development, insight in motives and reasons thats just "hey this is Drifter". the entries later ooze with weird wordings and decriptions and happenings that its hard to believe the writer took some time to even read the basics.. His Ghost is able to lift a Shovel with some sort of "lasso of light".. nowhere else can you read about a ghost doing this. Then the story describes him as being able to move very fast while running.. nowhere can you see that as a ability of guardians/Risen.. then he cauterizes a wound of his "friend" who then promptly dies as if the writer did not want to continue with that connection..the writer even takes his time to describe an exchange of words between the Drifter and a Child, just to completely abandon this conversation and not explain on it, when his dying friend asked him.. then he opens up a bar at felwinters peak and invites Lady Efrideet, to his Bar to kill three warlords and then threaten to kill their Ghosts if they dont retreat and wait for their "risen corpses" to be delivered back to them. Because somehow Lady Efrideet has the ability to permanently kill ghosts with a normal gun. (which would make the crucible a horribly dangerous place for permadeath by accident for guardians) and later he asks fellwinter to retaliate upon on e of the iron lords that used that village of him to set up an ambush for the warlords.. a LOT of that "lore" doesnt make any sense, doesnt have any mention elsewhere and introduces completely new abilities and possibilites without elaborating on them.. the whole plot reads like a bad D&D plot by an unexperienced writer and game master who forgot to cover the basics and keep the wording straight.. that was very disappointing to read.. -.-
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  • Are you kidding me? That was one of my favorite lore books last season! We finally get to see the truth of what happened to the drifter.

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    • The Drifter has always been an asshole, he is also a liar, coward, manipulator and stupid so this is pretty much what I expected of him.

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    • So he was wary of his Ghost at the start. He saw a thing he didn’t know at all telling him what he “needed” to do, and decided to ignore it. He still doesn’t trust Ghosts, and he is right, we don’t know yet what they actually are, 100%. Just because he started off not trusting the random robot means the entire book is weird? He watched the desperate Ghost kill for him. Met other Ghosts that’d do the same. Saw the Iron Lords and Warlords destroy everything in ideological war. Watched kids die in the midst of their games. Those are the entries that show what changed him into the jaded cynic that he is.

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    • [quote]Fan fiction[/quote]

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    • It was Amazon, join me: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/253517182

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    • Editado por Quiet_Bushi: 9/10/2019 5:04:49 PM
      Generically speaking, I agree with you: while I was reading the "A Man With No Name" lore-books sometimes I felt that something was weird and I found myself saying [i]"WTF?"[/i] a couple of times. I don't think that those books suck or whatever, I just think that there are some weird things that needed a better explanation. So.. let's start, shall we? [quote]the Book starts [b]with seemingly introduction of his Ghost[/b] and how it stated that all it did was to look for his "chosen" and how he surprisingly was not only willing to die for him but also [b]to kill for him (no idea how a ghost would do that but , details)[/b][/quote] As you wrote, we don't know exactly if that was his Ghost. What we know for sure is that the Dark Age, the period after the Collapse, was completely different from the one we live as The Guardian. Many characters in the Destiny lore/story said that many times. The same Drifter, if you chose to side with the Vanguard, during the Mission in which you must recover some hidden messages, in one of those says that during the Dark Age there were Ghosts ready to kill for a Blue Engram. Is it this true? We don't know. After all, can we really trust the Drifter? Can we really believe him? Maybe it's just a lie, maybe not. He also says that Ghost were ready to absorb the Light of other Ghosts in order to become more powerful. That's may be true. When The Drifter was on that icy planet, was his Ghost idea to hunt and kill the Ghosts of the other members of the crew so to became able to interact with the tecnology of the monolits. We know for sure that Ghosts are different. Some of them are joyfull and funny like Pulled Pork, other more serious like Ophiuchus. The same is for the Guardians. Maybe the Ghost of the Drifter and others are more like... cruel, or idifferent, cold. Or maybe they had this kind of behaviour for another reason: after the Collapse, there was a sort of "the stronger lives" situation. For the Ghosts of that time it was more important that their chosen had to remain alive. There was no Last City to defende, no humanity to save, just "We must survive". And if for this was necessary to kill other people, loot bodies or whatever, well, they allowed this. My point with all this is: is it weird to read that a Ghost could possibly kill someone? Yes, it is. Is this impossible? We don't know. Destiny's lore has changed from Destiny 1 and Destiny 2 and then Destiny 2: Forsaken. We saw many discrepancies.between Destiny 1 and 2, some changes that were even contraddictory. But that's doesn not mean that this is something new that we discovered right now: a Ghost, maybe, may have the capacity to kill someone somehow, an ordinary human for example by piercing their head. [quote]The Drifters Story starts with him being resurrected and prompty being a dick. Frowning at his drone, not asking questions but just defying the advice the drone gave him and starting to go, without any sense of direction or idea where he is or was, in the opposite direction of what was indicated where he was supposed to go which also included a brief explanation. Then somehow a Vehicle turns up and crashes next to the drifter and then hurls onto him, crushing him in the impact. The Driver of said vehicle was supposedly having his helmet punctured with a hole of the size of that drone.. needless to say that a ghost (the drone) would easily just rip off the head of any humand if it would have the speed to punch through a helmet. The the Ghost resurrects him and he defies the ghost once more heading to a arbitrary direction away from the proposed path his Ghost gave him.. all while the ghost adjusts his "modular armor".. [b]that whole two article read as if someone completely unfamiliar with the drifter the lore and the destiny universe has written this[/b][/quote] I agree, this may not be "the best" entry we ever had in the Destiny lore. It's weird, a little bit chaotic, there is something that feels odd in the sequence of the events. However, again, I don't think this is enough to say that who wrote this was unfamiliar with the Drifter ecc. We've red of other Guardians rebirth and they are often different. We, The Guardian, just keep quiet and believed/followed our Ghost. The first thing Orin asked to his Ghost was to give her a name. Who knows what Uldren is going to do? Going to the Last City? I don't think so. The Drifter did what he felt right after he was reborn: go away. When he was rezed again after the he got killed by the truck, he saw the hole in the head of the guy and decided to don't trust the Ghost and just go in another direction. I don't think this is weird. I just think this is a different decision of those we saw in the past. So, again, is it weird? Yes. Impossible or wrong? No. Just few weeks ago we thought that a Lightbearer lost all his/her memories after his/her rebirth. But Orin, somehow, had a feeling of remembrance when she saw Mara again. Eris Morn also remember everything about her own past now. So, just because this is the first time this happened, is this wrong? [quote]His Ghost is able to lift a Shovel with some sort of "lasso of light".. nowhere else can you read about a ghost doing this. Then the story describes him as being able to move very fast while running.. nowhere can you see that as a ability of guardians/Risen.. then he cauterizes a wound of his "friend" [/quote] Do you remember our first Armor? The one that we had at the beginning of Destiny 1 campaign? The description said that it was crafted by our Ghost by scraps that he found around. Weird, right? But it's a thing. It seems that a Ghost can create things by scraps. Nowhere you can find such a thing if not there. What I'm trying to say is that, again, just because this is the first time that we hear something new about what a Ghost can do, it doesn't mean that's impossible. About the run fast /cauterize wounds. During the Dark Age, there where no Hunters, Titans or Warlocks. The Lighbearer used the Light in a sort of primitive way. This is said again by the Driften. Also, the Drifter seems to don't belong to any of the normal Classes we know. Is he a Hunter? A Warlock? A Titan? Who knows. Still he has the Light and can use it. Maybe in a total different way how we use it. [quote]Because somehow Lady Efrideet has the ability to permanently kill ghosts with a normal gun. (which would make the crucible a horribly dangerous place for permadeath by accident for guardians) and later he asks fellwinter to retaliate upon on e of the iron lords that used that village of him to set up an ambush for the warlords..[/quote] Ghosts can be killed in many many ways. Shoted, eaten by the Fallen, their Light sucked out by the Hive, exploded ecc... how many dead Ghost can you see when you go to the Spider? I know, I know, you refer about the dialogue of Aunor and the Drifted disguised. But that's just another way to kill a Ghost. Ghosts can be killed in many ways, we know this very well since the past.

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