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Editado por DeVViL84454: 2/14/2019 9:31:15 AM
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We want SBMM back bungie

Edit 1 Please check my game history and tell my is nothing wrong with matchmaking.please tell me that. I will delete the game if is nothing wrong with mm. Every game I get the worse team all team mates under 1 kd like 0.5 and the other team 2+kd. How is this possible? How? And if I win a game I have the best team mates and the opponents all under 1kd. Tell me is nothing wrong and I will delete the game the account this useless app which is broken too. Edit 2 I played comp to see if sbmm is enabled. No it is not at all. I played only with and against European people. Check my game history will find their names and clans maybe. Germans, french, Italian,Spanish,Russian I think who is in Asia but also is neighbor with Europe, Slovakian etc. Not like america or China at thousand miles distance. No players from America or China ,Africa etc. How do I know? Their names and the clan names. In fact most players who I play with or against are french , English UK and German. SBMM=true competitive mode. Without SBMM my chances are 90% to play against a 2.0 kd player and I am average I think or worse. Last year with SBMM my kd was not that bad but now every game I am under 1kd. And 90% of the time my team is 1 kd and the opposite team 2+kd. Wtf?? I dont understand matchmaking on this game.why one team have the best players and the other team the worse players. How the hell is this possible ? Edit 3: I read all your comments and many of you said qp with sbmm was laggy and matchmaking time was bad. Well for me in Europe where we have fiber internet at 1gb/s or more didn't seen much lag at all and the time for mm was like is now. Ok maybe 10 sec more. Some of the people who use these forum want SBMM back. That's why I said WE WANT , because I read other people post. Anyway if sbmm is enabled in competitive is broken or is not enabled at all. In comp I faced only people from Europe so is cbmm right? And something else is wrong too ,even if the opposite team is not 4 stack always at least 2 of them will be 2+kd or more and my team 0.5. I think the actual matchmaking is made to put the best players against the worse players. If no sbmm at least the Pinnacle weapons like Luna's must be nerfed or banned from qp not from comp. Is not fun to be killed, spawn and then killed again next second you spawn. I remember the "we want SBMM out" but who made that complain if not the streamers and the people who make recoverys. And for the meta we need more weapons to be meta not only Luna's and bygones. Wtf this game has only 2 weapons? I have 300 on my inventory all masterwork. Should I dismantle them and keep only bygones right?👍 I don't care about Luna's I have Trust,Nature of the beast, Ace of spades. I can't get Luna's. I can't hit 2100 and I am ok with that. I am on 1100 and quit playing because of carryes , Luna's,not forgotten,etc. Before the cbmm changes I used to play comp more than qp (8-9 months ago). Now I dont touch comp. Is not for me. But even qp now is like if not the same as comp. Is not fun anymore. Crimson days is fun. Iron banner too. But the maps are too small for 6v6. The same people who wanted sbmm out they asked for 6v6 too and bring back shotguns on kinetic or energy slot. I am ok with shotguns but some people are not if you read the forum. From my point of view those things ruined the PvP fun.
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  • 0 bumps probably negative at this point since it doesn’t show past 0 431 comments “We want SBMM back” Yeah, doesn’t look like it

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  • 1) SBMM is active in comp 2) CBMM is still far superior 3) Destiny is not a competitive FPS franchise

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    • Dear Bungie, OP says we want SBMM. The 245 comments and ZERO likes as I write this determined, THAT was a lie. 😎

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      • Shut up pls. If you solo queue you run risk of getting worse teammates🤷🏻‍♂️. I solo queue all the time or I play with my 1 friend and that’s it. I don’t have an issue with matchmaking at all. Sometimes I get curb stomped but that’s how competitive games in any game work. You can’t win em all

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        • [quote]Edit 1 Please check my game history and tell my is nothing wrong with matchmaking.please tell me that. I will delete the game if is nothing wrong with mm. Every game I get the worse team all team mates under 1 kd like 0.5 and the other team 2+kd. How is this possible? How? And if I win a game I have the best team mates and the opponents all under 1kd. Tell me is nothing wrong and I will delete the game the account this useless app which is broken too. [/quote] The conclusion does not represent the theory. You would expect to see the better players win the game, which is why its more likely to see people with better stats win the game... [quote] Edit 2 I played comp to see if sbmm is enabled. No it is not at all. I played only with and against European people. Check my game history will find their names and clans maybe. Germans, french, Italian,Spanish,Russian I think who is in Asia but also is neighbor with Europe, Slovakian etc. Not like america or China at thousand miles distance. No players from America or China ,Africa etc. How do I know? Their names and the clan names. In fact most players who I play with or against are french , English UK and German. [/quote] Of course it doesnt use SBMM, it uses your RANK like basically all games do. You have absolutely no idea where players play from and using their clan name or name is just laughable logic. Not to mention, this has NOTHING to do with sbmm, whats your point here!?!!?!? [quote] SBMM=true competitive mode. Without SBMM my chances are 90% to play against a 2.0 kd player and I am average I think or worse. Last year with SBMM my kd was not that bad but now every game I am under 1kd. And 90% of the time my team is 1 kd and the opposite team 2+kd. Wtf?? I dont understand matchmaking on this game.why one team have the best players and the other team the worse players. How the hell is this possible ? [/quote] No, competitive games are normally based on your RANK, then connectivity to get the best games possible. Your rank is meant to determine your skill, which is why your rank does not matter, you will fall into your rank with peopleo f a simillar k/d to you, thats kind of the point of a rank, that DOESNT stop people from climbing ranks. If you are sitting at around 1100 mmr and some really amazing 5.0 K/d player starts playing comp, hes gonna start at 0 not 4000, he needs to PASS you somehow, and that means playing against you. [quote] I read all your comments and many of you said qp with sbmm was laggy and matchmaking time was bad. Well for me in Europe where we have fiber internet at 1gb/s or more didn't seen much lag at all and the time for mm was like is now. Ok maybe 10 sec more. Some of the people who use these forum want SBMM back. That's why I said WE WANT , because I read other people post. Anyway if sbmm is enabled in competitive is broken or is not enabled at all. In comp I faced only people from Europe so is cbmm right? And something else is wrong too ,even if the opposite team is not 4 stack always at least 2 of them will be 2+kd or more and my team 0.5. I think the actual matchmaking is made to put the best players against the worse players. If no sbmm at least the Pinnacle weapons like Luna's must be nerfed or banned from qp not from comp. Is not fun to be killed, spawn and then killed again next second you spawn. I remember the "we want SBMM out" but who made that complain if not the streamers and the people who make recoverys. And for the meta we need more weapons to be meta not only Luna's and bygones. Wtf this game has only 2 weapons? I have 300 on my inventory all masterwork. Should I dismantle them and keep only bygones right?👍.[/quote] 1. You clearly dont understand how sbmm favors statistics over connectivity and good games. Thats just a fact, it increases queue times and makes games on average worse in connection, especially when your game doesnt have an amazing player count. (take Leauge vs Destiny, one has a HUGE player count so they can use sbmm if they wanted). 2. You quite clearly dont speak for everyone since your post hasnt got that many upvotes, maybe instead of saying WE WANT THIS, try just asking the community about their thoughts or if you have questions maybe ask for the answer. 3. Dude its called RANDOM chance, the lack of sbmm means anyone can join your game, that means at any time, someone can join with a way lower or way higher k/d to you. 4. Luna is not a great gun, it is far outclassed by the last word, not forgotten and ace of spades. Depending on your platform, there are a great variety of weapons that are used, heck even Polaris Lance is destroying people at the moment. I think thats a reflection of YOU rather than the meta. There WILL always be a meta...that LITERALLY defines the word meta. You cannot physically not have a meta. Any game, even the most competitive game in the world has a meta. [quote] I don't care about Luna's I have Trust,Nature of the beast, Ace of spades. I can't get Luna's. I can't hit 2100 and I am ok with that. I am on 1100 and quit playing because of carryes , Luna's,not forgotten,etc. Before the cbmm changes I used to play comp more than qp (8-9 months ago). Now I dont touch comp. Is not for me. But even qp now is like if not the same as comp. Is not fun anymore. Crimson days is fun. Iron banner too. But the maps are too small for 6v6. The same people who wanted sbmm out they asked for 6v6 too and bring back shotguns on kinetic or energy slot. I am ok with shotguns but some people are not if you read the forum. From my point of view those things ruined the PvP fun.[/quote] Wow you dont say some people enjoy/like somthing that others dont!?!?! Its almost like the game has thousands of players with different opinions. Its also like the overwhelming majority of players dont even use the forums so their opinions arent gaged. Its almost like people come to the forums to complain (in the majority of cases) so those who do like somthing arent usually the first to give their opinion. Its like if you drink water you arent likely to call up your supplier and say damn thats good water! but you are very likely to call them up as soon as you get brown stuff coming out the tap. Humans value negative emotions over positive ones, its natural.

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        • Im just going to leave this here. https://destinytracker.com/d2/profile/psn/DeVViL84 [spoiler]😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂[/spoiler]

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        • 0 upvotes 😂🤣 Yep everyone wants sbmm back. [spoiler]sike![/spoiler]

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        • No they don't just the garbage players do and their opinions don't matter.

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          • Sbmm is for noobs

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          • I've said this at some stage... Bungie has tried implementing SBMM in D1 at some stage and a lot of people hated it. I guess some people can't make up their minds

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          • You’re win procent is at 46 % overall. With a 0.8 kd let’s say a arvg player is a 1.0 kd. And in your post a God thier player is a 2.0 kd. If the win loss procent is Around 40/60 % for both then the sbmm is good in place and Bungie did a good job, because the team are balance or else the win % would be way different. So Bungie in my oppinion is doing a good job. I watch you’re game history and there is nothing wrong with you’re match making Some times you run in to a stacked team. There is nothing that Bungie can do against that, we want to play with friends sometimes, and yes sometimes you Will run in to stat hungry teams that want to farm because there kd is what gives them meaning in life. I my self am a good player, and play solo realy much and if you ask me i have so much trouble with sbmm the way iT is. For one reason only. My skill is high enough that i get match with the less skillfull and match against the avrg player. That can be frustrading, so i have 2 option. 1 get a few God thier players in and dont worry about you’re expiriance.... 2 just find the challage in iT and see if i cant improve more then i all ready am. And now the part about git gud mate, this is just saying the same thing as dont complaine because we all have Some feelings about sbmm, but you got to think of the whole player base exp. And again if your win/löss % is between 40/60 % you should be match in a balance team. So you might wanna start thinking about what to improve on...

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          • Editado por SAOC2: 2/15/2019 2:39:10 AM
            Just want to say that I agree with op and that his upvote score does not reflect the opinion of the playerbase as the forum community does not reflect the playerbase, hence why this place was filled with streamer propaganda against sbmm months ago. I would add some things. 1. I have not experienced improvement in lag. 2. Not balancing teams even WITHIN the lobby is ridiculous. 3. Playing a 100% lose chance game is stupid. As is playing a 100% win chance. 4. Luna and Not Forgotten require skill to obtain but do not require skill to use on console, because 180s are pathetically easy to use on console. So you just gave the best players the easiest gear to farm noobs on quickplay. To whoever came up with this idea, congratulations on still being employed, I'm amazed. 5. I've stopped playing pvp once I felt the effects of removing sbmm on matches. It's been over 2 months since I last played and I came back to the 100% lose chance lobbies to get the last word, mostly because friends wanted it. Got my efficiency portion of the quest done and I just feel regret. I feel stupid for actually playing this pvp where you get matches in which you either get carried or stomped. I feel stupid for chasing a gun that is clearly supposed to undo the mistake made with the pinnacle 180s and save a game mode I don't want to have anything to do with any longer. 6. I don't have a problem with game modes that are made exclusively for the best. I didn't play a single match of trials EVER because I knew it was made for the competitive gamers. I have 2 competitive matches which I played with a friend who wanted to complete some kind of quest. Never stepped inside again. And it's ok. There's nothing wrong with making game modes for competitive gamers where they can assemble teams and try their hardest to win no matter what. Apparently the best players disagree, since they will gtfo those modes as soon as they get whatever op gun you reserved for them so they can use it to farm idiots on the all new pub stomp playlist.

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            • Editado por RingersCheckmate: 2/15/2019 1:34:44 AM
              No one is trying to say there’s nothing wrong with matchmaking, to address your first edit. Those of us who disagree just don’t want taken kings lagfest to be back, or like farming lower skill players. I don’t see how matchmaking preferences wouldn’t be the most healthy introduction for the game.

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            • No. I don't want to match EU/SA players in NA.

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            • *Sees thread name and downvotes* K.

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            • Here's what i would love people against SBMM to explain, as I've never heard them try. Your arguments have always been: 1) "if you dont play against people higher skilled than you, you'll never learn to play better". 2) "i dont want to constantly play sweats. I just want a relaxing, chill game". 3) "I dont want to spend 5 minutes searching for a game" 4) "CBMM reduces the lag" So.... why dont YOU want to play against better players and improve? Why does everyone deserve to get stomped all over cos YOU want a chill game? Why is it acceptable for lower skilled players to spend 10 mins getting wrecked instead? Do you REALLY think the lag could get much worse?!?

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              • Editado por Lost Sols: 2/15/2019 12:51:14 AM
                No matter what ignorant replies fill this thread, SBMM is 100% better for the game and the community. Unfortunately there are two factors at work in these comments. 1) players who benefit from getting their very own pub stomp playlist where they can match players 500-1500 Elo below them. 2) players who've bought into all the bullshit that Triplewreck, SNtR and other high profile streamers have sold as fact about it when nothing they've ever said on the topic has been close to truth. I'm willing to bet a lot of the people who bash skill in Matchmaking are also the same who bitch about solo vs fireteams. Funnily enough, skill factoring is what balances games for solo players. Skill doesn't factor in QP or Comp and solo vs fireteam is one of the top complaints in the game. Skill factoring doesn't have the affect on connections they claim. D1 had a less stable p2p system overall and a lot of other factors that led to it's connectivity problems that had nothing to do with SBMM. Hell, there are posts to this day bitching about connection quality in QP and it's a strictly connection based playlist. That further shows skill factoring doesn't have shit to do with it. Then there's the lie that SBMM gives everyone a 1.0 kd and 50% win ratio. Except that has always been easily proven bullshit because everyone didn't have 1.0 kds and 50% win rates in D1, in D2 year one or in current weekly playlists or Iron Banner. What skill does is tries to make both teams more balanced and give both teams at least a chance to win. Currently most games are over before they begin and a team having a 100% chance to win is not uncommon. So yeah, they'll try to protect their farm or regurgitate the lies they've been fed, but the fact is that player numbers are tanking and they're destroying this game with selfish bullshit.

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                • Sometimes your just gotta get good

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                • >0 upvotes Yeah the community totally wants it back.

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                  • The only whingers who do not want SBMM are those who know they cant pub stomp in quickplay and also know they would have to play others of same skill set .. They hate SBMM because they can’t boost their KDR anymore .. Bring back SBMM now

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                  • No we don't.

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                  • I had no problems when it was sbmm. The matches were fair and I was able to improve as a player. Now it's stomp one way or another.

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                    • I'd love to be more connection based. Nothing like being in the US and going against 6 man team from Australia. I've had a guy literally teleporting around.

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                    • the streamers and co need to stomp on the less skilled to boost there ego's and kd sky high so it was removed your best bet it is to let it go and stay away from pvp its not worth an early death from stress

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                      • The only people that had wait time issues with SBMM were people with over 2.5 K/D or higher which is about 2% of the games population. This was all so streamers and youtubers can get sick clips of them destroying noobs for their compilations

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                      • Sbmm won’t work for you bruh. No one is that bad.

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