Well same thing can say PVP player ... why bother to do raid, strikes, nf just to grind some shit rifle 1k voices or something from NF. Its two side coin. And if you are saying thatt everyting is pvp related than what do you mean ? Ace of Spades a bit, Malfeasance a bit. Now when it goes to Redrix Broadsword, Lunas Howl and Not Forgotten ? Yes they are ... now lets see NFs .. you have plenty of stuff from NF including weapons ... you spending time in NF to grind those ... they spending time in pvp to grind those ... if you do not want someting you just dont do it ... ive got a member in my clan who completly leveled up characters in pvp and never done any raid ... we are unable to make him do raids with us ... so he does no have weaps like silicon neuroma, D.F.A etc .. and about those weekly milestones in pve/pvp ... are optional ... well you dont want it you dont need it ... same goes with pve/pvp players they are there to make game nlnot that mainstream. After few weks you start to say that there's always the same everu week todo milestones an blah blah blah. Well then make it a bit different and jump in pvp ... and again same goes go pvp playes ... so i dont know what is your problem. And those 25 precision kills in pvp isn't that much hard to do just pick right hand cannon like Crimson, Better Devils, Midnight Cup and go. Do not rush the game and you can steal kills. Wait till someone hit it and you finish him. And when it comes to Ace it's not pvp related. Its pve/pvp related it has quest parts from pve and quest parts from pvp.

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Yes pvp needs work especially in the matchmaking sense. But on the other hand it's not that difficult. For your ace of spades they already nerfed one part of the quest to "kill enemies in gambit with a hand cannon, invaders are worth more" instead of complaining on a forum how about you get in pvp and get good. It's amazing what you can do when you stop complaining and just go do it

Sounds pretty selfish. Put yourself in the shoes of people that only like the pvp aspect of this game. They have to play pve 10 times the amount you have to play pvp, if not a whole lot more. Don't get me wrong, I really don't care for pvp in Destiny games, but I'll play it if I have to. At some point, a certain opinion becomes a small minority, and Bungie cannot cater to every single one.

C'mon, complete a raid 5 times ? I've done LW once and it felt enough. But if One Thousand Voices would have been a super duper trace rifle... hmm.

Gamers are forced into PvP because it serves as endgame content for Destiny 2 Forsaken. That way, BUNGIE doesn't have to waste its time or resources developing new content all the time for the gamers who are left playing this grindy grindfest of a game: namely streamers (who should get real jobs) and tryhard no-life gamers.