It's very doable, you just need to keep trying you'll get your win in time and don't play comp when your stressed out good luck

If Rumble granted glory that would be way better

Destiny has been, from the very beginning, a team-oriented game. Raids. Strikes. Heavy team play in PvP, outside of Rumble. Why can people not accept that there are simply large parts of this game that require a coordinated team? Why must an insignificant number of players, cry and temper tantrum so loudly as to turn the very core of the game on its head? "Non top tier solo players"... Is it really that much to ask, to try and be at least halfway decent in PvP?

You ever consider that maybe you’re not entitled to everything in this game if you’re not willing to put in the effort or have the skill? Teams really aren’t that hard to find.

I think it is doable but it's definitely harder on solo, keep in mind if we had more solo players playing the mode the problem resolves itself by having solo go against solo more often. The problem isn't in the game it's in finding ways to make people want to play it and bring the overall player count up so get a wider breadth of players in the game.

[quote]How many think comp should be doable for non top tier solo players?[/quote] [quote]I personally think that the current system requires no skill at all[/quote] https://destinytracker.com/d2/profile/xbl/TheMeddler777 .70 in QP and .62 in Comp. IT"S FUKING COMPETITIVE !!!!! [b][i][u]YOU[/u][/i][/b] HAVE NO PLACE IN IT, W/O A FIRETEAM. EDIT: fair enough. here is my Dtracker. https://destinytracker.com/d2/profile/xbl/DrPhilaBole as You can see our KD vs KDA is a pretty close ratio. and I generally solo, or play with my roommate VORHEES GHOST. What is really different between our stats...... W/L ratio. You'll also notice I keep my solo playing ass out of Comp.

First of all: kudos to you for trying to create a usable platform for data collection and feedback. Truly commendable in this day and age. Now here's my take on things. Fundamentally, D2 comp conflicts with the playstyles we developed playing through D1. In D1, the power always lay with the solo player, being able to outplay the other team with superior gunskill and positioning and most importantly, speed. This fast, aggressive style of play was conpletely flipped at D2 launch with the advent of the 'Mida-teamshot-meta." Since then, D2 had been characterised by "butt-hugging" amd slow metgodical (otherwise known as 'camping') team play, where the power lies with the team, and not an individuals skill. This, I believe is where the comp in destiny argument points stem from. People want to feel powerful and be rewarded for their individual skill in all playlists, but those people have had their enjoyment neutered because of the fundamental shift away from solo play at D2 Launch. Bungie, to their credit, have tried to bring back individual power by buffing guns back to a similar lethality to D1. But because of the new "butt-hugging" playstyle that was adopted by the remaining playerbase, this resulted in the GV shitfest we endured last season. At this point, the people crying out "bring back The Last Word" because it is a gun that allows for individual outplay in the current meta are missing the point, that with the way people play the game now, that would only result in groups running at you with shottys and TLW, creating cqc deathballs that would be pretty much unstoppable once they got some momentum going. Coming back to the comp playlist discussion: the solo player demanding a solo-queue comp is just being naive in thinking it will make a difference in how matches play out. The winning team will always be the team that sticks together best, regardless of weather they are solos or squads. Because of the way people approach D2 pvp as opposed to D1's pvp. In conclusion: do I think something needs to be done for the solo pvp experience? Hell yes. Do I think it's an easy fix? Hell no (People fail to realise that there are uncountable factors that go into balancing this game, peoples playstyles, controller mapping, monitor refresh rate, weather they play with earphones or not, etc etc) There are so many things that need to be considered and at this point I honestly think a true endgame solo pvp experience is wholly out of reach based on how the majority of the community now plays the game. Although I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong. Anything else?? Idk right now. If people wanna have a discussion about my musings then be my guest. Cheers Razzar_8

Come on bungie. I've done the homework for you.

I don't think destiny should have a competitive mode. It's poorly balanced. Laggy as hell. Plenty of people exploiting the system And it doesn't run 60fps or have dedicated servers. It's a casual pvp arena and should be treated as such

All pvp should be removed from gamming

Being a good teammate and a good combatant requires more skill than playing solo and just being a combatant.

I would argue that teamwork is itself a skill, and one that the core of Destiny is built around. I’d also argue that if one is claiming to be elite as a solo player, then it shouldn’t matter if you go up against a team or against blueberries.

I believe that the way we lose points should be based off our performance. If we get blown out we lose full amount. If we do ok against a team we should only lose 5-10 points. If we were completely keeping up with the enemy team kill for kill round for round, we shouldn't lose any. Maybe even give us some points if we barely lost. It would be a great way to give people something to fight for even if they know they are going to lose.