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Editado por millienand1: 12/10/2017 2:04:03 PM
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This is why PVP and PVE needs to be separate

Prometheus Lens is great for PVE fights but because of PVP it's going to get tuned down to boring. Why is this something hard for Bungie to do? PVE has always suffered because of it. This is the reason most of these weapons are boring. (Edited) Why can't Bungie just lock certain weapons out of certain activities that way each game mode doesn't suffer.

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  • Get a grip. There’s nothing wrong with any weapon in PvE. Them dregs too hard to kill? PvE is not difficult I’m sure you can manage. Guess who complains about PvP, PvE players that get destroyed in PvP or just casual players. I guarantee you can’t find a nerf this, nerf that post from a decent PvP player.

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    • Credit to user "Glorbalshnob" for this nifty idea to not only beef up mods but also help make pve and pvp better at the same time. [quote]or, how about this. Every weapon has 2-3 mod slots. Mods are actual perks now. Firefly, counterbalance, you name it. You can put whatever mods you want in those slots. The catch? Mod slots are deactivated for pvp, so that only the base gun with its base perks is playable. That way, crybabies can't complaing that someone else has super op hand cannon thanks to rngesus. Its all the same thing in PVP. But play in pve, and you've got a high rof auto with explosive rounds, firefly and counter balance. BOOM. Make pve immediately more fun, rewarding, and customizable, and keep pvp balanced, all at the same time. We will never see it though. Its all about limiting everything as much as possible, not about making a fun game.[/quote]

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      • Excuse the typos and incorrect punctuation I'm not an English major. Nor am I a video game developer. So I'll start by saying bungie and all the people who worked hard to make the game beautiful and truly a spectacular work of art from visual standpoint great job. In my opinion leadship should be shuffled because I think the shortcomings of this game are strictly to do with people who lead these teams and made decision to cut content that existed in D1 . With that said let's jump in to some ideas I think should be added for more playability and maybe things that could attempt to rebalance the wep system. 1st. Add the grimore back into the game . And or collectables to find when you explore. At the very least add a codex to the game where I can see a list of all possible scannables. By doing this you allow the player to access the lore you took time to put in also giving them a goal to find and collect all scannables. 2nd. Maybe a solution to the weapon system problem. Make a set of shotguns and snipers that can be used in the energy slots but lock those items from being used in pvp in the energy slots. This will allow pve players to feel more powerful and also your weps you designed would actually get used. This also doesn't disrupt the pvp balance which is the main reason the system in place exist. I believe this is a possible solution that can be implemented more easily then just changing the whole system. But as I stated I'm not a game developer. 3rd. Maybe add some fun random things in like for example in many games similar to destiny there's always a list of random monsters bosses mobs leaders whatever you want to call them that will randomly by chance spawn and at that time your given an opportunity to collect his name on your hunting list. This gives your play spaces more replayability causing players to want to be exploring in your game because maybe they run into a random mob to add to a list of others. You can even make these some what of a bounty style. Reward players Everytime they cross three names off and at the end give an emblem for there efforts. I know this game has many issues but here are some things I'd enjoy seeing. [spoiler]happy holidays and remember it's just a game and this is just a dream.[/spoiler]

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      • Prometheus Lens shipped with a bug, what part of that can your brain not comprehend...? It’s nothing to do with PvP. Just reevaluate yourself.

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        • pve and pvp are seperate. Bungie has the capability to make something only effect one. Most recent example is Bungie buffed a handful of nades in pve and it didn't effect pvp at all. If the lens is garbage come tomorrow then it's either because: a) Bungo decided not to change it for pvp only and thus you should be mad at them for not using their tools effectively. OR b) the bug that makes it so good in pvp gave you a false sense of how the weapon normally behaves. And it was actually intended to be different all along. In which you still should be made at Bungie and ask them to make it better for pve. Which is completely possible. Because they've made more than one change that has buffed something for only pve. This is of course assuming the bug is even effecting it's performance in pve. Until then stop your whining.

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        • It's a PvP specific bug... jeez, you guys will complain without even knowing what you're complaining about.

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          • It isn't broken in PVE though, the patch shouldn't impact its performance there.

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            • That requires actually getting off their lazy asses and doing some actual coding instead of the copy-paste they’ve been doing for years. Minimal effort in hopes of maximum profit. Also, their bank accounts are either pretty stuffed or they’re so underpaid that they don’t want to bother.

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            • What they should do is return the game to how it was in D1: faster cooldowns, special weapons, random rolls etc. Pve is fun again and this will carry over to quickplay which would be hectic and fun, like d1 was. Then for the pvp elitists, they can have their boring barebone competitive with no supers, specials or heavies, locked loadouts, and slow ass grenade recharges. They’ve always talked about “we want more gunplay blah blah blah.” So I say give it to them in competitive, but don’t ruin the -blam!-ing game to appease them like bungie did in D2.

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            • Haven’t found it to be that remarkable in PvE personally. My Coldheart melts (freezes, I guess) much more yellow bars by comparison, and Uriel’s Gift does way better than my new Lens. It’s only in PvP that it shines, and that sadly is a mistake, ha. Definitely agree though about some separation of PvE and PvP weaponry. That’s really the only way this game will be truly balanced. Weapons for zapping Guardians must be tuned differently than weapons for the field. Different play styles, different battlegrounds, different needs. Makes sense.

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            • It’s not getting nerfed, there’s a bug and they are fixing it. Given it’s a bug and it’s OP in crucible but mediocre in PvE I️ think it’s safe to say the bug is only interfering with pvp and once it is patched pve won’t even notice a change.

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            • Bungie has proven before they can balance PVE and PVP seperatly. They've done it in the past. They're just lazy. Seriously.

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            • This was THE main reason I did not buy D2. It is the most important thing on my list for requirements that need to change with this franchise. It’s the one thing that could change this entire game around for the better.

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              • I have a feeling even when the fix the bug with the initial damage scaling it’ll still be fun to use.

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                • Because that's not the game they want to make.

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                  • They should remove PvP from the game and spend the resources on adding a wider variety of PvE activities instead

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                    • Editado por CaptainW1nky: 12/11/2017 12:36:04 AM
                      The lens isn't even good in PvE........ it's good against trash mobs that's about it.

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                    • They should ban Exotic from PVP Competitive. Let the quick play PVP as kinda mayhem. For fun only...no cry babies complain are allowed If you want to be a cool PVP player just play in Competitive..

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                    • 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🍾🍾🍾🥂🥂 we have a winner here

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                    • People still play PvE? Why?

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                      • Agreed. This problem really affected D1’s PvE.

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                      • Do away with pvp all together and make it like they said it was going to be at the start pve only the moment they added pvp they -blam!-ed this game or should of had separate weapons for pvp

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                      • Not sure why the nerfs can't just go into effect while playing crucible. Kind of like the 10% xp boost ghosts that only become active in the crucible. Because if they blanket Nerf the lens then it will likely be useless in PvE. It isn't even that effective now except against low level adds. But it does have a place in PvE prenerf.

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                      • Bungie is able to tune weapons separately for pvp and pve, they just refuse to.

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                        • What, for the 27 ppl that still play this game? Ok lol

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                            Ummm I don’t think it’s broken in pve. Far as I’m aware there isn’t going to be a nerf, just a fix so it’s working as intended in pvp. We tried the nightfall with it then switched all our weapons back to our original load outs as it’s a great mob clearer but didn’t have the punch for bosses.

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