Oh look.. it's another one of these threads. I LIKE NUMBERS! *eats glue*

People play a game less as time elapses from its release?????!?! No way! Thank god we have you to provide us this genius revelation. Holy shit what would we do without you

We‘re down to 500k PvP/1m PvE. On three platforms from which I think PC still has the most active players since they‘re six weeks behind and the game is much cheaper (ane agruably better) on PC. And the numbers also include D1 players. That‘s bacially less players on both consoles than D1Y3 had in it‘s last months before D2 dropped. It‘s the lowest since 9/2014. Doesn‘t matter since it‘s just a false narrative...lel

To those who will try to say that Tracking is showing a false narrative. First off, last I checked with them, those numbers come from both destiny and destiny 2. I could be wrong there but it's been the going impression. I can tell you if you check the Destiny 1 tracker it gives you the same number... So. What we are now dealing with is over 5 platforms. PS3 and 360, PS4 and Xbone, and PC. Across two game titles, a total of less then 1 million people played destiny at all yesterday. Odds are about 200k are still playing destiny 1's pvp, so that leaves around 200k in D2s pvp. About 400k are probably still playing Destiny's pve, so that leaves around 500k on d2's side. Look. The reality is this. You are lying to your self if you think "oh no, no no no, destiny is doing well, people just aren't playing it every day..." this is the number of their core players. Around a million global, about half of which also play pvp content. It is literally impossible for their numbers to go /down/ from here. This is the lowest they are capable of being at this time. When the numbers go up, it's because of on again off again players factoring in, people who show up for things like the weekend trials events and so on. But this is the lowest the number is likely to go, even after the game has been out for years, the number will still more or less look like this. That isn't an example of a successful game. That's the mark of a game that sold well then died on arrival. The simple fact that Bungle came out with a little press release to try and promise "yeah we hear you we're fixing it" means the problem is actually worse than is indicated on the tracking site. There is no false narrative. They're going to spin it that when people come back for the 3 hour long DLC, it's because of the changes they're making to physics "fixed" everything. The reality will be just another flash in the pan but it will give them the numbers they need to sell the real false narrative. That Bungle is doing well.

I️ want Bungie to go out of business the same way I️ want all my exes to get fat.

Honestly some of the points people are making are still kind of idiotic... -"Check the numbers again on 12/5 and they'll be up":...well yeah they will be. The question was never if they'll be up but rather should they have been higher * I F * the game was a quality one? -"Player numbers naturally dwindle": This is one of those truths represented to obscure the fact that games have a typical set projection to what they naturally dwindle to and anything that exceeds the "natural digression" usually is do to something with the game itself. Easiest event in recent history that resembles the fire that Destiny is making is Pokemon Go that lost 50% of its user base in the 2-weeks it implemented an update that "alienated" players. Difference is they lost 20million players on a F2P title whereas Destiny doesn't even have that many players to bleed and its a purchased title. -"Destiny 1 numbers don't matter": This is stupid and dumb 'cuz fact is if D2 was truly a great success, D1 would be history and that's it. This isn't an opinion but a real gaming fact; players only go to older versions of the game if they feel it has better value. There was a huge demand for a Vanilla version of WoW because of the belief of the overabundance of crap in the current meta of that game. In D2 the meta is crap so people want D1. This isn't on Bungie's planning book in any way, shape or form and the fact that it is an issue simply implies that they fudged up D2. Numbers matter because if D2 really got it right, we wouldn't be hearing about D1 at all. -"Players whine too much":...and how many "whiny players" did it take to cut the price of The Taken King? Yeah thought so....If this is an issue then know the difference between feedback, criticism and a whiny complaint. Bungie deserves all 3 because they are that incompetent in understanding the idiocy of their mistake. -"Anthem will not kill Destiny": this has to be one of the more delusional statements because yeah actually it won't. But it WILL ensure more players will drop Destiny in a heart beat. Also great games never worry about other similar genre worry them; great games become the hallmark of comparison. If you think of how many Zelda games there are, they never worried about other action RPGs ever, they always went ahead and did quality stuff on an unpopular console type and still managed to achieve unanimously impressive results to the point where people are buying the console to play that game. No one talks about Bungie or Destiny that way, we instead talk about how things "could have been" and that's the real story. The fact is everyone would've loved to see D2 suceed and that they didn't hold high expectations for an improved D2 over D1 but no one could've forseen the shit show this whole debacle was.

[quote]If that's actually how they felt, they should probably raid every gamestop and best buy to remove all the used Destiny 2 discs before that spreads another "false narrative"... The only false narrative is everything that comes out of their blam ing mouth[/quote] Gamestop raid sounds a lot more fun than raid activities.

Less then 2000 watching d2 on twitch, that's the real number of players left on d2 🤔

[quote]9/26 - 4.7m registered, 2.6m Crucible, 2.5m PvE[/quote] 2.5 + 2.6 = 5.1. If you are going to make up statistics, at least make sure they add up.

Check the numbers again on 12/5. They will skyrocket again. Lots of people will come back to play. They always do. It was the same case for all of Destiny 1. "Game is dead" "Game sucks" Dlc dropped and everyone came crawling back for a couple weeks then it stagnated again until the next expansion or major update.

Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.

All I am saying is since the beginning of time, when have numbers ever been wrong?

Funny thing that players today can't play a game unless the player base approves of it. They stare blindly at how many people are online now in fear of being left behind. Like you see in the movies, it's better to dump someone before they dump you type of mentality. Why not enjoy the game for what it is? A player base can be as low as 2k online and still be well off with plenty of people to play with (depending on the type of game of course). Ah well, fear not, soon there will come another game which you all can join only to quickly abandon as soon as the full amount of players who bought the game doesn't stay.

That didn’t come out of Bungie’s mouth, genius. The people running Destiny Tracker said it.