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10/25/2017 4:49:06 PM
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What is missing from PvP
This game doesn't have Destiny 1's spark.
In my opinion, here is why.
-only 4v4, no 6v6,3v3, 3v2, or rumble
-team based, no longer can you hunt for high kill games
-individual performance is watered down on the post game results screen due to the "defeats" system
-guns don't feel different beyond their archetype. If the impact and RPM is the same, chances are the Guns have little to no difference in performance
-no ranked
-no different subclass builds, only two options per subclass
-recycled abilities from Destiny 1
What do you think is missing? And what do you think Bungie can do to help fix this?
Post your comments down below!
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1 Respuestaid love to see more of a halo 3 type of post game report. there is no reason to stick around at the end of a game and they give us medals that we can barely take note of. why not give a post game report that shows who killed you the most the weapon you got the most kills with and the medals you obtained in the game. you let us look at (spec) a character in the tower because they look cool and we are able to see all their awesome gear. why can't we spec a character after a good game and see all their cool stats... this leads me into my ranked discussion which was also a staple in halo 3, why cant we have a ranked playlist you call it competitive but why is.... its just two different playlist with different games one of which you can get more heavy in I suppose but thats about all that separates them. give us a ranking system PLEASE. it will help with match making. help make casual more casual and give commit players a real reason to play you awesome game.
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4 RespuestasJust one thing is missing in my opinion. These...
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1 RespuestaEditado por GrimO_ORabbit: 10/27/2017 10:41:41 AMBungie wants Destiny 2 to be accepted as an e-sport, I hope that never happens.
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What's missing is walls. Hahahaha
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Editado por Crashdogg76: 10/30/2017 6:45:19 PM
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4 RespuestasBungie listened to PVP players with high visibility. Complaints about only being killed by 2-3 weapons yielded weapons that feel the same. Complaints about ability spam yielded slow cool downs and weak grenades and melees. These led to the team shot meta which is what we could have done in D1 but those that could Rambo around the map with the god rolled weapons made team shooting unnecessary. So now you have to work much harder if you want to be successful on your own. Be careful what you wish for.
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5 RespuestasPvp needs to go, it’s cancer to destiny. Pve suffers constantly bc of it, dual primaries..... nuff said
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The snow glows white on the mountain tonight Not a footprint to be seen. A kingdom of isolation, and it looks like I'm the Queen The wind is howling like this swirling storm inside Couldn't keep it in; Heaven knows I've tried Don't let them in, don't let them see Be the good girl you always have to be Conceal, don't feel, don't let them know Well now they know Let it go, let it go Can't hold it back anymore Let it go, let it go Turn away and slam the door I don't care what they're going to say Let the storm rage on. The cold never bothered me anyway It's funny how some distance Makes everything seem small And the fears that once controlled me Can't get to me at all It's time to see what I can do To test the limits and break through No right, no wrong, no rules for me, I'm free! Let it go, let it go I am one with the wind and sky Let it go, let it go You'll never see me cry Here I stand And here I'll stay Let the storm rage on My power flurries through the air into the ground My soul is spiraling in frozen fractals all around And one thought crystallizes like an icy blast I'm never going back, the past is in the past Let it go, let it go And I'll rise like the break of dawn Let it go, let it go That perfect girl is gone Here I stand In the light of day Let the storm rage on The cold never bothered me anyway!
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Yup I agree on all counts real question is when are they actually gonna listen I quit playing pvp I hate 4v4 ruined the game
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80% of the shots that directly hit the enemy like not even kidding it was NEVER this often in the first game that's just pathetic
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Imo, crucible should have a prestige level system like call of duty. That'd give people more incentives to grind .
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Editado por I3ALLI5TIC: 10/27/2017 9:27:15 PMRanking is the biggest thing. Then it's weapon balance. Nerfing and buffing weapons is not the answer. We need each weapon type to perform best at its optimal range. Adjusting the damage falloff and flinch falloff for each weapon type (besides heavy weapons) will give each type of weapon a unique role. That balance alone will fix all weapons across the board. Small tweaks (nerfs and buffs to specific weapons) should be made only after each weapon type has a defined range and flinching behavior. Next thing is the radar. Shorten the range. In trials remove the radar. Make ranked playlists without radar. Leader boards! One for PvE one for PvP. Track win streaks, wins, losses, kills, perfect trials cards, etc... For PvE track raids, nightfalls, strikes, public events, and times completed, all soloed activities completed...etc
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Faster abilities.
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[quote]What do you think is missing? And what do you think Bungie can do to help fix this?[/quote] PvP is missing the same thing PvE is missing. Space Magic. Shorten the Ability timers & Super timers.
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3 RespuestasEverything you mentioned and also incentive. Incentive is missing from every aspect of D2. There is no incentive to do well in PvP and how well you do depends on essentially how close you are to your teammates. In D1, you could go positive against a fireteam as a solo queuer just by playing smarter. In D2, if you're solo against a fireteam and they have thumbs, there's little chance you're going to get a kill beyond potshot finishes. Stats are useless. Assists considered kills? Double downs from teammates finishing off people I threw a grenade at? Yeah, I feel special now, thanks for the pat on the back, Bungie. Engaging someone first and landing all headshots only to die before they do because their team was able to rush 100m and teamshoot me? Getting spawned into someone already shooting me before I can ADS or find cover? Yeah, I guess I could have played better...kinda...sorta...not really.
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I think the game is fantastic for the most part. I come from a huge Halo background and love the team shot aspect as well as the balancing. However their are a couple thing I do want to change: 1. Destiny needs a ranked playlist. I don't even need better rewards for crucible as long as I can grind rank. 2.Flinch is a little too strong. High cal rounds isn't the problem. (If you don't believe me go watch cool guys video) If we tone this down a bit sniping will be viable again making this game a lot better. 3.Hand Cannons need to be fixed. I play with a controller on PC and the hand cannons are perfect. Take whatever you have done to them on PC and copy and paste it to console. If you don't believe me plug a contoller in on PC.
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Great list and to add: have more perks on the subclasses. I hate these fixed perks
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1 RespuestaCouldnt agree more. In D1 defeating a handful of enemies in the same area using my primary and special was something I live for, being that I like to play up close. Now in D2 I am forced to play at a mid range and if I come across a team I have to either run or die oooooor pray I have my super. I miss the day I could just last word all of my problems away.
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True. You are forgetting that balance is not as marketable as imbalance. The more imbalance the more it can be marketed towards a casual player base. Meh w/e this will always be a hotly debated community topic but it won't ever be debated at the desk of a Marketer ;) ;) ;) ~Zesty
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Hit registration and recoil patterns are horrible in D2. Aim assist was drastically changed and sucks. PC did it right and console should copy the way PC implemented weapon mechanics.
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bungLe kept all the laggy exploits and deleted what little variety the original game had in pvp
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D2 PVP is a total piece of crap supremacy needs to be a separate list or gone altogether - pretty much the opposite of fun even in destiny
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...4 players.... 2 on each side....
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Everything
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4v4 didnt help the lag..... p2p is p2p no matter how many people in the lobby. Just go back to 6v6. Team shotting and slowplay is trials esque..... most people dont want to play “trials” in regular mode crucible. Shotguns, fusions, and snipers made the regular crucible more “arcade like” and more fun for the majority of players. Lack of grinding for a God rolled pvp gun limits replayability Those are my top three crucible gripes
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Hi Sir D!
