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Editado por Trill_0012:
5/30/2017 7:31:02 AM
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How do you feel about the 4v4 Pvp?
I seriously don't know now. I'm a little less hyped for the release of D2. A lot of you brought up some very good points in other post about your clans and your raid teams.
I'm paraphrasing:
[quote]After a raid sometimes me and my team like too play some pvp. "Hey guys we were going too play some pvp, I have too kick two of you". That will go over well. [/quote]
If you find the guy that said that, bump his comment because that is one of the main things us team players and helpful players hate most about this change. We hate too kick people feeling like a @ick after spending hrs having fun with the Full Team. I'll take fun 6v6 (clash, mayhem, ect) over competitive play any day of the week. Idk if you've heard bungie....BUT MOST PLAYERS HATE ToO!!!
[quote][i]"nah, we'll read it on reddit"~Luke [/i][/quote]
I find soooo many good post on b.net you'd think some of these players were devs. I also see a lot of complaints but its not because we hate the game. Its because we love it, and hate what its becoming in some areas.
I just really don't understand bungies thought process. I cant speak for anyone else, but they only partially listen to some players. Am I alone on this?
Edit: Thanks for the comments and votes. A lot of people are on the fence about the change and its understandable. Took me by surprise. Nothing left to do but wait for the beta....[i]sigh[/i] I guess. I'm not at all excited as I once was...like wow.
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More bumps!!
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I'm more concerned about the fact that it doesn't seem to be welcoming to solo players. The fact that the time to kill looks slower as well concerns me, not for the reasons some people may think though. I'm concerned about teamshotting. I feel like a slower time to kill will promote teamshotting which is honestly in my opinion a scummy way to win
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4 V 4 is only for crucible and Trials as far as I know. Raids will still have 6 I believe. I'm excited for 4v4 in Trails this means there is less pressure to perform at top levels. Maybe it will make it more relaxed if that's possible.
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The fact they had to remove 6v6 to implement this is concerning. Not sure why this couldn't be an addition rather than a replacement.
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2 RespuestasNeed to play it to have an opinion. Played 4x4 in Halo and it was great (pre Halo 4, Bungie's work). Just hoping they don't do what everybody else does, adding bazillion abilities, bells & whistles. I like the FPS part of the game, it's fun and intuitive to shoot stuff. Hopefully they don't break what works.
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I'd like a mix. They do it fine now, having clash, zone control, supremacy as well as having skirmish and doubles. No clue why they can't just revamp that.
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1 RespuestaWhere's the Don't Give AF option? I don't care about people who think PvP is the only thing that ever matters. Their opinions don't matter to me and what I care about in the game, which is not PvP. I don't think what Bungie is doing is wrong, or at least the outcome has yet to be decided. For anyone to be claiming this or that makes it good/bad is premature. The same people would have likely claimed Destiny 1 vanilla was going to be the best thing ever before they ever touched the beta.
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5 RespuestasI honestly expected them to introduce bigger teams, bigger maps, and an overall bigger experience. I want 12v12, 32v32, 64v64 combat, not 4v4. This seems like a HUGE step in the wrong direction. At the least, I want to be able to play with my full 6 man raid team. 4v4 Iron Banner???? LAME. Underwhelming. Not at all what I was expecting from this game that we have all been waiting so long for.
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1 RespuestaEditado por Elden Lord Archon: 5/21/2017 2:12:23 AMIt's boring. Very boring. If every game mode is 4v4, that tells me each game mode will be very similar. I've never been a fan of 3v3. I've always liked 6v6 because it's more chaotic and fun. The Crucible has never been a strong point in Destiny, and in Destiny 2, it'll suck complete ass. 4v4 is going to be more sweaty than 6v6. All game modes will be sweatier, thus increasing the amount of nerf crybabies. A lot of PC gamers will add to that population as well. We'll get more nerf crybabies than ever before, and guns will be neutered faster and harder than ever before.
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1 RespuestaThis isnt Halo and i hate bungie trying to make Destiny like Halo
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Honestly every single game of 6's I play has 1-2 red bars if not more. If lowering it down to 4's mean less red bars and more gunplay then I think it's a step in the right direction
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1 RespuestaI'm going to play it and enjoy it... But.. I'm really disappointed about it. I honestly expected more from a sequel in size and scope. 4v4 is a downgrade regardless if its to minimize connection issues or whatever. And thats just the start of a big fat can of worms that should be opened by bungie honestly. Dedicated servers?... 60fps?... The apparent lack of any of these requested/ fairly expected features for the sequel to such an amazing game that ran on old tech because of last gen... well thats pretty lackluster to say the least. But back on topic... 4v4?.... yeah I'll enjoy it because it's destiny and it'll be fun. But damn! Big let down.
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They are most likely going to incorporate a larger playlist or at least a 6v6 mode post release and by the time trials or maybe ranked playlist come to the game if ranked comes. I understand from a balance and quality connection stand point why they want 4v4 but I really think they will eventually add a larger mode and maybe even a combined arms type with 8v8 or something. Bungie will come around dont worry.
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1 RespuestaIt's an interesting direction. The problem is that a competitive scene comes from the players, not the game. People used to do Skirmish sweats before ToO was concieved, people want that competitive play, but Bungie is forgetting that this is the minority. If they want 4v4 to be the standard for competitive gamemodes like ToO, Skirmish, Countdown, and Salvage, that is fine. But having all game modes being restricted hurts the variety we can find in gameplay. Look at Destiny and the way 6v6 and 3v3 games play out; it is very different, and this gives an option to every type of player. I loved Combined Arms and Y1 6v6 because we got access to cool vehicles on large maps. I saw a tank in the D2 trailer, and that would be an awesome addition to multiplayer, it's a wasted opportunity. I know people who don't want to engage in a sweaty competitive match every time, they liked 6v6 modes, not having larger game modes is wasted opportunity because they will either not play PvP much or not play it at all. If the players that want a competitive Destiny want to be competitive, give them the game modes to let them experience that, but don't forget the majority of the playerbase that doesn't play ToO every weekend.
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Editado por Lord Fried: 5/23/2017 9:10:43 PMDon't care at this point. A large chunk of the time I spent in Destiny was in PvP. I rage quit sometime late last year because I finally had enough of the weird metas and connection issues. I fooled around for a couple matches in the last iron banner because I was bored. Going into Destiny 2, I doubt i'll play much PvP. I have Battlefield and Titanfall for that.
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i feel like they did it to reduce lag. but it won't change anything. look at elimination. just one red bar and the match goes to shit.
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7 RespuestasSeen gameplay it seems fine. But what about my other teammates left in orbit? 6v6 needs to be a thing and here some people were thinking we was gunna get bigger matches than that. Thanks p2p.
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I'm cautiously optimistic that it's going to work but I will miss 6v6 going forward regardless. I think it's important to wait to form an opinion of it without having given it a go.
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11 RespuestasI'm fin with 4v4 as the basic match size. What I'm not fine with is 4v4 only. I'd really like to see a playlist with larger teams.
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5 RespuestasIts not that i would hate 4 vs 4 its the fact that is the ONLY option. thats a shiit decision if i ever saw one. having 3 vs 3 and 6 vs 6 and rumble keeps the pvp from going stale. having every game have the same number of players sucks. who's dumb idea was it. this is the single worst decison bungie has ever made and they have made a lot of really bad decisions. no rumble? how can you have a first person shooter without a rumble game. that sucks big bannanas!!!
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Editado por InfinityDrags: 5/22/2017 4:26:43 PM[quote]Idk if you've heard bungie....BUT MOST PLAYERS HATE ToO!!![/quote] ^ This x 1,000
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2 RespuestasThis is a result of failing to implement the industry standard of "Dedicated Servers" The link summarizes why and how it effects PvE and PvP: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/227233368/0/0 Dedicated Servers are the industry Standard for MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) FPS (First Person Shooter) games NOT a p2p system.
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5 RespuestasI want a big team battle mode
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Editado por 907firestorm: 5/23/2017 4:14:08 AMI have mixed feelings. It will bring a twist to trials but clash and control won't be the same. Combined arms and mayhem clash were my favorite game modes. Now even if those game modes stick around it won't feel as fun and well, chaotic.
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RIP-Combined Arms September 9th, 2014-September 8th, 2017
