Bungie has made it very clear that they've declined to change the Crucible rule that causes us to lose special ammo upon death. I wish it were not so, but it is. We have, the way I see it, five choices on how to deal with it, assuming we wish to continue with this game.
1. [b]Capitulation[/b]. It seems to me that Bungie's intent on making this widely disliked change persist is to pressure the players into maining primary weapons by making the alternative an exercise in frusatration. They've certainly succeeded in the latter, but we can choose whether or not to give the bully what he wants. It's certainly a vianble option: pull out your primary, use a sidearm (as backup only of course). Try to make the best of things.
Ironically, though I was already mainly a primary user, I expect I will have trouble with this one. While I respond well to friendly persuasion, it is in my nature to resist being forced to do anything. And since Bungie has kept this change in place despite the overwhelming negatve response, it is clear that that is their intent. They've twisted the players' arms, and the majority of players have meekly gone to their primaries.
2. [b]Resistance[/b]: Snipers gotta snipe and shottie users gotta shoot. Get out that Invective, that Ice Breaker, that No Land Beyond. Or, make regaining special ammo your top priority. Spark runner need protecting? Zone C being captured? A bunch of red crests need recapturing? Well, it'll have to wait until I find a green crate without a timer on top of it. Sorry, team. Of course, I'll still expect you to act as meatshields for me while I search for that special crate. After all, it's not like I'm going to fight the enemy myself without special ammo!
Sadly, this one probably won't be fun, and it won't win you very many friends. But it's an option for all that.
3. [b]Diplomacy[/b]: This was by far the best option, as far as I could tell. Tell Bungie how we feel. Explain why we feel that way. Be calm. Be rational. Be polite. Promote alternatives that would keep our special reliable while reducing its ability to supplant the primary. Show that we sympathized with what they were trying to do, and had given it thought ourselves.
I tried this. So did many others. We were not successful. Whether it will be worth pursuing further will depend on if Bungie intends to tweak the meta between now and when Destiny effectively sunsets, with the rise of D2.
4. [b]Vitriol[/b]: We're seeing a lot of this, and I can understand why. The PvP meta is the most toxic I've ever seen. For me, Crucible matches are all too often an ordeal, a brutal grind for loot in a game mode that's about as fun as being waterboarded. I expect a lot of you feel as I do. So yes, we want to call Deej and his associates all manner of dirty names, make insinuations about their dietary habits, sexual quirks, or family relationships. We feel hurt and betrayed and want to hurt back.
Skip this one. Please. I'm angry too, believe me. But this doesn't do any of us any good.
5. [b]Abdication[/b]: Simple. Do not fight in the Crucible. No more red bounties. No more match of the day. With the wealth of PvE content that's headed our way, the Crucible may have officially become far more trouble than it's worth. Honestly, I don't believe that this action will have any positive effect, but at least it will spare us a whole lot of misery.
If you can do this, I'd seriously consider it. You can't stop the Crucible from being what it us, but you can avoid being negatively affected by it.
Bungie has made their choice. Now we must make ours.
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Editado por Orpheus49: 3/27/2017 3:58:50 AMYeah, we dont like this bullshit so we are definitely not gonna accept it
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2 RespuestasDont speak for me. ++ Special ammo armor was OP before. This change has me using more special at more points in the average crucible match. Every damn minute it spawns what's the issue exactly?
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Dont speak for me. ++ Special ammo armor was OP before. This change has me using more special at more points in the average crucible match. Every damn minute it spawns what's the issue exactly?
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Editado por Rapscallion: 3/26/2017 2:44:33 AMI bet they'll be taking the CoD route and make all shotguns, snipers, and fusions primary weapons in the crucible for D2. Our only secondary will be some take on sidearms. Hopefully I'm wrong lol.
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1 RespuestaCan you be the new community manager ?
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Amen brother Amen
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5 RespuestasIn truth they could of done leave only 2 shots on death unless you have 2 in the mag. They just didn't want people running round with shotgun the whole match. Problem is people will use whatever is the easiest to kill with unless you force them to use something else see side arms meta we have now as an example But they could of easily put in a daily bountie which gives a lengendry engram if you kill 200 with primary but no they go straight for lose on death route.
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1 RespuestaInfective is useless cause you if to reload it first and every time after you die. I hate this meta but I love getting hate message saying I cheat when I use steps on my warlock. I hate wearing them but man it's fun to wear those exotic boots.
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3 RespuestasThey slap us in the face again by nerfing one of the few consistent primaries, again, then act surprised when special usage is still through the charts. That's the thing that's the most annoying from this patch. (Besides the toxic meta and the fact that I can't use anything besides a sidearm after round 1 of Trials) Double standards. A lack of logic. This doesn't make any sense. They force us to use our primaries, almost exclusively, yet continue to nerf the few primaries worth using.
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1 Respuestalol you sound like we at war with Bungie for real hey, they gave me what I asked for...... I just wanted it to reload Instantly once I pop the box .... im good now .. That destiny leak tho .. I cant wait for more !~
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7 RespuestasActually if all of us will boycott crucible bungie will definitely do something about it.
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8 RespuestasI gone the last route. Though I call it "Detachment" rather than "Abdication". I can't force Bungie to do what I believe is right for their game or stop them from changing it in ways that I don't like But I CAN simply stop playing the game when those accumulated changes drain the fun out of the PVP experience for me. They have....and I haven't played in the Crucible in over a month....and have no intentions of going back as long as this is the path they insist on taking. Sometimes---if a drowning man refuse to admit he's drowning, and becomes a threat to everyone who tries to help him because of it? Sometimes the only thing you can do is row away...and sadly leave him to his fate.
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6 RespuestasHow about if you don't like the change, just stop playing? There's a lot of good games that feature better PVP than what Destiny features.
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4 RespuestasI play titanfall 2 for pvp content and destiny for pve right now and with age of triumph destiny pve will be a refreshing fun experience to play and don't get me started on how much fun it'll be with friends or randoms off lfg (lfg sometimes) but pvp is not fun for me at all right now I'd anyone wants a good pvp experience check out titanfall 2 it's faced paced but the maps are big enough to have breathing time
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1 RespuestaI find it really disappointing they choose to go this route rather than do a daily kill 200 with primary bountie which gives you a lengendry engram cause I'm sure that would of stopped a lot of people from running around with shotguns all the time.
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#6 Play a game with your friends where the person with the most special ammo at the end of a match wins
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Yes on#5
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2 RespuestasAt least the changed side arms to not stack ammo anymore.
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1 RespuestaBeen relying on primary since last summer pretty much. Really not much of a change for me. I have started to pop green crates more for a tactical reason though...get the ammo on the ground for team mates to grab, and deny opposition access to the crates. There has also been a bit of crate camping going on too. Some may see it as a problem, but it also can work to your advantage as it adds a sort of objective focus for finding targets.
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3 RespuestasOMG you need find a real life man seriously
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5 RespuestasI'm not horribly opposed to the way it's set up. Flak me on it if you want, but I like seeing people use as much primary as me. Also, I've noticed that special ammo is quite frequently available, which I find very nice. I can get a 27 lord of wolves shots per crate, and I can usually find 2 crates per life on a good life, but one crate on most lives. It's not ideal for people who have a lot of fun with exotic secondaries and I get that, I kinda miss having like 30 queenbreakers shots. So I can see both sides of the playing field
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5 Respuestas"This meta is the most toxic meta" Those words have been in these forums since it's beginning. You need a better line if you want Bungie to listen to its Sheep, friend.
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I definitely stay away from the crucible or take it in small doses. Too many bad connections to have any fun or take it seriously anymore. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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1 RespuestaIt's a video game. If you don't like it, stop playing. We don't need a revolution here.
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3 RespuestasI've done #5 since day 1 of last patch
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1 Respuesta[quote]Zone C being captured? A bunch of red crests need recapturing? Well, it'll have to wait until I find a green crate without a timer on top of it. Sorry, team. [/quote] So you're going to make your team hate you, lose the game, and probably not make a meaningful difference in the stats. You're real stand-up guy.