EDIT: - Those trailer's tho. And it's coming out on PC?! I'm sorry Bungivision. Take all my money. Seriously - I get to investigate and look for the son of a -blam!- who destroyed mine and my fellow guardians gear? YO LETS -blam!-ING GO. Let's do this, I'm in. 100%. Way to slip that into the narrative in a big way. As soon as I saw the big ass 2 sitting there. I was like "Yeah. No shit. You're gonna destroy my gear, my vault, everything..." Then the Cayde trailer just hit me like a ton of bricks, then the day after that with the reveal... colour me Mr. I look stupid over here with this nonsense. So cool to see so many guardians click the "Ya I'm buying it. Perfect use of time/money." option. Good for you guys, sticking to your guns. Well, you'll have nothing to stick to upon release. (har har. ._.) Salty Nerds Original Post - [spoiler]Yeah. Definitely NOT buying another project from these disingenuous assembly of milkers. Seriously, you guys can word it how ever the hell you want. It's tactless, all I read is "buy buy, consume, consume, buy buy. We write words, this is fluff, here's more fluff.." And half the comments hating on this thread, all I'm gonna read is "I'm blind, I can't think for myself, I am buying into this. Conglomerate stranglehold. I am actually quite addicted, here are the reasons why, etc.. etc.." Before you defend this incredibly narrow minded and baseless insult from me, I am sorry. To understand why, watch this video, starting 50 seconds in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h86g-XgUCA8 This is the exact reason why they're not letting you carry your gear (regardless of the possibility that it is entirely feasible and how easy it is to polish and transition already good looking and well polished assets into new mechanics) My guardians, fight for your gear. It's easy, you simply tell them you will not purchase an incomplete project. Better yet, start talking about this sort of thing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising - http://www.vrd2003.org/archives/breach-of-contract-when-can-you-sue-for-broken-promises.php Furthermore, check this thread out - https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/71746591?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1 Some more indepth information. [spoiler]Puffing[edit] Puffing is the act of exaggerating a products worth through the use of meaningless unsubstantiated terms, based on opinion rather than fact.[17] Examples of this include many superlatives and statements such as “greatest of all time”, “best in town” and “out of this world” or a restaurant claiming it had "the world’s best tasting food".[18] Typically puffing is not an illegal form of false advertising and can be looked at as a humorous way to grab and attract the attention of the consumer.[18] Puffing may be able to be used as a defense against charges of deceptive advertising when it is formatted as an opinion rather than a fact.[19] However, it can also be used as a defense for misleading or deceptive advertising. For example, claims like ‘Top Quality’ can have regulatory and legal consequences and can be looked at as illegal misrepresentation, if not supported through the products capabilities.[20][21][/spoiler] [spoiler]Bungie was founded in 1991 with two simple goals: Develop kick ass games that combine state-of-the-art technology with uncompromising art, captivating storytelling, and deep gameplay.[/spoiler] [spoiler]I don't think they've met that what so ever. Puffing. Where I'm getting at with this, is what is the harm of at least getting some people together, talking some lawyer business, and seeing where it goes? I mean we all enjoy the style and over all IDEA of destiny, but is it really worth all that money we spent on it? The over all experience we are paying for is this right here - https://crew.co/how-to-build-an-online-business/mvp-minimum-viable-product-example/ They crunch their times, force their workers and players to grind for hours until the last possible breath of said product... and, you'll see what I mean. Just check out these excerpts I wrote out here, I think some people might have something here. 2014 https://youtu.be/SQKp0VcA1Vw 8:45 [/spoiler] [spoiler]"We really see the loot system as rewards for action. We want you to earn the things that you have. So if you have that exotic beltfed heavy machine gun in your arsenal you should always have a memory attached to that." "I won that by killing that strike, on mars, the hardest difficulty setting. That is mine. It defines me." "We don't want anyone to ever say WHERE'D YOU GET THAT?..." "Angry Joe gave it to me..." [/spoiler] Also this is very important. 10:14 [spoiler]"Over time we're gonna tell this story to the best of our ability, I can tell you that all of our sights are set right now that destiny the game. The one that you have access to in September 9, blows your mind. Makes sure that you start to expect more from Bungie games and the shooters that you purchase. It's going to have 5 different modes of activity, it's gonna have more explorable geometry and realestate than we've ever put in the hands of a player, more weapons, more alien races. It's a next generation game in every notion of the term we're spanning out in every direction."[/spoiler] 10:47 [spoiler]"If we do our job right, if you want to explore that world, beyond what we've given you. If you still have questions about the mysteries of the universe and the story and the lore. But job number one, is to statisfy you to create a game with a distinct beginning, middle, and an end. Something that can stand on its own two feet."[/spoiler] 11:15 [spoiler]"We are very sensitive about the fact that we earned the right to put a number on the box. Right now, it's DESTINY."[/spoiler] [spoiler]2017 "Destiny 1 power, possessions, and Eververse-related items and currency will not carry forward. They will, however, remain accessible to you in Destiny 1." Have you earned the right to put a number on it?[/spoiler] [spoiler]"Bungie Weekly Update 12/04/2014: "In the months to come, your quest to become more powerful will have more avenues that lead to satisfaction. The last thing we wanted was for you to look at your favorite gun or helmet and decide that it had become obsolete. Since the reveal, we’ve read a lot of ideas for how this could have been done better. Your feedback is clear: The time you have invested in your stuff should be respected." The last thing we wanted was for you to look at your favorite gun or helmet and decide that it had become obsolete."[/spoiler] [spoiler]"We know that, just like us, you have grown fond of the Guardians you’ve created, so we do plan to preserve your character personalization. We are going to recognize the dedication and passion you’ve shown for this world. Specifically, the class, race, gender, face, hair, and marking selections for all characters that have achieved Level 20 and completed the Black Garden story mission will carry forward. We also plan to award those veteran accounts with honors that reflect your Destiny 1 accomplishments. " "The time you have invested in your stuff should be respected." What? A -blam!-ing sticker beside our name? *good job buddy, you did the thing ^^*[/spoiler] [spoiler]Big no thank you to that, I want my personalized gear and shaders. I want MY GUARDIAN. My play style, this is why I am so hesitant to play this game. To begin with! You guys haven't taken into the account of everyone's play styles by doing this. 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryhU1Oe1lv4 7:25 [/spoiler] [spoiler]"We want to give people new stuff to do every day, day in day out, but at the same time we want to make it compatable with real life. So if you don't want Monday-Friday as your job to play destiny if you get home from work or school, you can absolutely put a few days in, 30 minute sessions and have fun and still play with your friends. We're not putting up barriers between people you don't have to "catch up" and slog through, we want it to be an action game that's really fun, you can just jump right into it."[/spoiler] [spoiler]I spent countless hours trying to find raid groups that just wouldn't let me play because I didn't want to watch a stupid youtube video explaining how to do it. I'm a pretty smart dude, I figured out the other raids with people who had no clue what they were doing and beat it rather quickly. As soon as The Taken King came out, nobody would do it with anyone that wasn't a low light level, had no mic, had low KD on trials, (check my KD I should know.) all that shit. What ever you guys did, you really pulled the wool over every ones eyes. This isn't the game we bought. I refuse to buy the next one. Yeah. We spent more time customizing our outfits, shaders, *PURCHASING EVERVERSE EMOTES TO MAKE OUR CHARACTERS SLIGHTLY MORE UNIQUE* Some advice for those in the Bungie headquarters most likely communicating with Activision. - https://hbr.org/2003/01/how-to-motivate-your-problem-people You guys went from - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33Yo0vVD-i4 to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3UWvdwN8ik ???!!?!?! WHO HURT YOU?![/spoiler]