Before anything, I am aware of RoI dropping on the 20th. So, save your fangirl comments. Let's pretend there isn't dlc in the near future. Personally, I think Destiny is very boring without ToO. IMO, there is not enough variety & game modes to be taking away game modes. (Yes Einstein, I understand they are currently updating/changing things with ToO.) Trials got me excited about gaming on the weekend. But without ToO, I don't even know what to do for fun on Destiny. Patrolled every area of every planet until I was denied by an invisible wall or a kill zone. But how much can we patrol, how much can we run the same raids & strikes over & over again??? PoE? Lol, gtfo. Quest & missions? Lol. Kill a few mobs, drop a ghost, stay alive. No one can honestly have fun doing things like this, other than fangirls/boys, or incredibly simple people. Play another game? Don't know if you realized it, but games are mediocre reskinned garbage cash grabs today, not much variety, for me at least.. I have not played Supremacy, so I cant really comment. But what's the difference between Clash & Supremacy? Your picking up an engram from their corpse? [quote][/quote]Essentially, your still scoring points by killing people, no? It's going to be the same fast paced run & gun games, like all game modes in Destiny, excluding 3v3, for the most part. Private matches (which Destiny should have launched with). Yay! Reskinned strikes that we have done 100's of times? & ? TLDR - this game needs some serious variety , PVP needs more games modes & customization, not just private matches. There needs to be a selection of game modes that Halo 4 or 5 would have in their playlist. PVE needs a ton more activities. Destiny needs Evolution and to change it up. We can't just keep playing the same SHIT over and over again from year to year. Achievements - Do you guys just throw the easiest dumbest most casual ideas together for achievements? What happened to doing or finding all sorts of crazy random things in pvp & pve??? Halo 3, reach, 4, & 5, all have fun & challenging achievements. NOT "complete this boring activity" or "complete this game mode (that you will be playing for the next 350-450 days before we change it up again) TLDR - Destiny achievements are boring lazy sad excuses for achievements.. Why not make the effort to give us fun & challenging achievements, instead of boring hand outs? Complete ________ 100 times without dying Win a game of _______ using only _______ Win a game with a k/d of 10.0 or better Achieve a 5 kill streak using vehicles only Get a kill in pvp on your sparrow Get a double kill with 1 sniper round in pvp or pve Etc.... see where I am going?