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8/7/2016 11:51:32 AM
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How are you not getting this, you cannot get any more range than its maxed stat, underdog does not add 10 range on top of max range You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
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  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U9-PUis5Ec have a look at this max range without range finder, max range with range finder. see what numbers pop up.

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  • Rangefinder? That's a funny way to spell underdog, stay on topic. Link me to where it shows underdog exceed max range.

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  • you said you couldnt shoot beyond max range. I showed a video which shows someone shooting past max range. something you said couldnt be done but was done. so seeing as it can I am expecting you to prove that you cant shoot past max range. you said you couldnt, I show that you can. I am bang on topic. what you said couldnt be done that video disproves what you said as it was done.

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  • Editado por Blank: 8/7/2016 8:48:56 PM
    You absolute dunt, you claimed underdog added 10+ range on a maxed range pc, I've told you multiple times underdog does not exceed max range, quote me where I talked about range finder? Link me to a video that shows underdog exceeding max range, you can't? Oh well then please ignore this comment like you have multiple times lmao Just read your other comment as well.. Wow you are thick, when did I mention anything about range finder? Holy shit. You assume that because range finder adds range that under dog will as well, assumptions are all I see. Actually look it up, I suggest the crucible play book. Under dog is not goddamn rangefinder lmao Screw it, I know you won't be capable of finding this information for yourself so I'll save you the trouble, read this and the comments. https://m.reddit.com/r/CruciblePlaybook/comments/4djn17/underdog_range_bonus_now_with_math/ If you don't get it after that than I'm afraid there's no hope for you.

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  • no I said underdog can add that to a weapon. i said that if it adds a 0.00001% chance of preventing a ghost bullet/ghost pellets then I will happilly take it. anything that will make a shotgun consistent I would happily add on to it just to make sure when I shoot it actually produces the shot and pellets like it should. I said from the start that the last perk I wasnt particularly bothered about but anything that can help consistency I would take. you said that at max range you cant get any more from a shotgun. I showed you you could. you keep ignoring the fact that you said max range couldnt be exceeded when I showed you it could. I am not too bothered about underdog for anything else but consistency. but after being shown that you can go to max range and use a perk to push past that you still want to keep humping away at under dog. i'll say it slow so maybe you will understand c o n s i s t e n c y d u m b a s s i dont care if it only helps out 1 in a million shots or one in a billion. if it helps reduce ghost pellets and shots I'll want it.

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  • Editado por Blank: 8/7/2016 8:57:50 PM
    Holy shit yep, you are not quite all there, I said underdog does not exceed the range cap you moron, I did not mention range finder at all you thick pos. And you just keep getting stupid, under dog does not give any chance at all of stopping a ghost pellet hahahahaha wtf. 00000000.1% chance hahahaha wha the actual -blam!-, how did you come up with this hahaha. And let's not forget The fact that underdog only has a range increase of 3 with a shotgun (not 10) but let's not get facts in the way of your assumptions hahahaha

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  • nope you said that range max couldnt be moved past. that once reached nothing else would improve range. I showed thats wrong. you said impossible to shoot past max range. i show you can and you change up what you want to try and argue over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB9i5ieBhLw thats from a streamer who has that exact roll. he even says that you can when it procs get quite long shots otherwise you wouldnt have. ie outside of what you are saying you cant do with max range. like i said IF there is even a 0.000001 chance that it makes it more consistent then I am gonna want it. anything that will help reduce ghost bullets or shots like your precious theory d I will take. you said nothing goes past max range and you were wrong. like all the way wrong. like any more wrong and you'd be the world champion of wrong. but dont worry you keep saying to yourself nothing goes past max range to yourself.

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  • Editado por Blank: 8/8/2016 5:23:47 AM
    Yep, every single post from you shows how idiotic you are, still can't link me to anything that shows underdog exceeding max range? Underdog is not range finder Underdog is not range finder Underdog is not range finder Still can't quote where I mentioned anything about range finder not boosting range? I'm still laughing at the 0000.1% ghost pellet thing hahahahaha, In gonna nominate you for the Darwin awards.

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  • well you said that mothing exceeds max range at all then got proved wrong. I dont have a gun with it but I can certainly listen to people who have it who play the game as their living and trust in their judgement. where as you have said nothing exceeds max range and then got proved wrong. yeah if anything has a chance at reducing ghost shots by range boosts then hey I'll take a chance on it. i dont care if its 1 outta ten or 0.0001% of a chance it will reduce it. if there is any kinda chance then I am all in. well again darwin awards shows how stupid you are. you have to be dead to be in the darwin awards. so like on your suggestion that you cant breach max range you couldnt nominate me for that. so yeah one of us here is a moron. its you ;) but feel free to keep reading it however you want and changing your argument up that you cant exceed max range.

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  • Editado por Blank: 8/8/2016 5:31:08 AM
    Awww no reply? :( Maybe read comments carefully next time and actually do some research before claiming somethings a fact Btw the answer to the question is.. Both guns can achieve almost identical stats but PC has a slightly tighter bullet spread. And no, there's no suck perk that gives you a 000000.1% chance at stopping "ghost pellets" lol. Ghost bullets are generally caused by lag or you simply missed your shot. Next time instead of crying omg ghost pellet (hahahaha) save the clip and re watch, I can guarantee your shot never hit.

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  • Try reading again, I said underdog does not exceed the range But try and make stuff up because you're retarded 😂

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  • Underdog is a useless perk when you've already got max range since you can't exceed that limit you have the gun max range in the build i said without rangefinder. but you said you cant get a benefit from anything when max range is reached. yet the video showed at max range you still can have range added. bye bye moron.

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  • Oh I'm sorry, what perk did I mention? Was it underdog? Hahahahahahahahahaha Holy shit hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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  • I will tell you one more time. Underdog will not add any extra range of the gun already has maxed range.

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  • I don't think you understand how stats and perks work. Stats are how the weapon feels and performs under certain areas. Perks are meant to boost how the weapon feels/performs. So in other words, perks are meant to boost stats. Yes, on the stats there is a max range that shotguns hit and cannot go any higher, but with rangefinder and other similar perks, it pushes the range out even further.

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  • Underdog maxes out equip speed and range(capped depending on weapon) when you are at critical health, at max range, fall-off is slightly extended, and accuracy bloom is almost non existent, even at longer ranges, the bullet will land where the dot is. I believe that range also increases hit box size. thats the description that datto has apparently given the perk. so like you said yeah seems to help with the other perks around shotguns but not specific to range at max range. but the other impacts that it has seemingly would have the by product of damage drop off being pushed back and accuracy being boosted. so while it doesnt semeingly effect range it would seem to be a more effective killer at ranges when that procs. how often that would come in to play I dont know but the other boosts would seemingly help reduce any chance of a ghost bullet when its been proc'ed.

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  • Except I do. The original question was what makes PC better? Both guns can achieve identical stats/perks Then I had to mention multiple times that underdog will not let a gun exceed its max range.

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  • the above video has shown that even at max range you can get more range with range finder. so how do you know it does when basically every top player endorses getting underdog there also. so if you can go above max range with one range perk why do you think another one cant help boost that even a touch? but hey I'll ignore all the top players saying it because you say so. if it even adds a 0.0000001% chance of a ghost shot or ghost pellet not happening then I would 1000000000% want it. shotguns arent consistent anymore since the last nerf and even that small a chance will see any shotgunner want it. regardless of how many times you say it. I have just shown a max range shotgun with range finder going above max range which you say it cant. ever thought maybe just maybe it can have an effect?

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