It doesn't help that snipers can be hit by a lot of fire and still pull of a headshot, like when I'm shooting one in the face with hand of judgment that has explosive rounds. I also don't want snipers to be -blam!-ed though, if some happy medium could be meet that'd be great.

That is the reality of Destiny, if you don't use a sniper rifle you will be putting yourself in a potentially less effective position. Most players use sniper rifle so I'm forced to use it, so it will be until Bungie decide that it's wrong, and the decisions they make just because of the numbers ... it's just ridiculous, there is no adequate weapon balance specialist in the game with multi-million dollar budget. Sometimes I just hate that all the players of Destiny for developers equivalent to Pavlov's dogs.

The only thing I want to see is more extreme flinch when getting shot in ADS.

I can't complain about snipers. I love my shotguns after all. You think people don't get pissed when I rush halfway across the map, or sneak up on them and kill the in one shot? I mean, yeah, there's a certain risk to rushing towards an enemy player across the way just to attempt a shotty kill. But there is also a risk for snipers who hardscope all the time. Those are my favorite victims after all. Nothing is more satisfying than walking up on a hardscoping sniper and putting my barrel to their temple and pulling the trigger. No fight to be had! Easy kill.

Bring back the patch that took away special at the start, most fun because alot of people dont know what a primary weapon is

My comment is not necessarily aimed at the OP's post but a general comment on sniping and snipers. Here's my beef with all of this. Before the TTK came out, i couldn't snipe to save my life! I hated snipers! The only snipers you ever saw me use was the Icebreaker in VoG at oracles/atheon or Crota for ogres at the bridge and the blackhammer for that one boss in PoE that burnt the ground (cant remember his name). I simply hated them because i couldnt aim whatsoever. Shotties were my thing, not Feltwinter's Lie but the plain and basic Found Verdict. It had a worthless range and the only real advantage this shotty had was Final Round, Not that it really matters but last years my PvP KD was under 1.0 all throughout my characters, lets face it i was useless and a burden to have on your team. Then TTK came out...and more specifically, King's Fall, where at the time (before the Black Spindle and Touch of Malice) four of the most difficult bosses required sniping skills. Warpriest required many headshots, Golgy needed his stomach pounded, the sisters with the crap shaped heads and the ogres at oryx who would drop quickly only if you snipped them in the head and with the help of your teammates........ What am i getting at you may ask? Practice, that is what i am saying. TTK gave me many opportunities to develop a new skill that i thought i would never be able to get a grip on. I have noticed a lot of people saying "I can't snipe so i would rather........". Step out of your comfort zone, learn to do new things, granted it isn't fun when you constantly get killed in PvP but there are many ways you can practice, run strikes, go on patrols and snipe the enemies from a distance, just keep practicing and before you know it you will be able to also snipe. Another hint i would give is to AVOID using crutch perks such as Aim Assist. These perks do not make you a good player, you essentially rely the game to partially aim for you and i do not see much skill in that........I received my first ever sniper, Longbow Synthesis, with Aim Assist yesterday and i can tell you that i hated it when i tried it out........nuff said on that. People think sniping is bad and breaking the game, i think shotguns like Conspiracy Theory, Party Crash and Universal Remote have a disgusting range on them compared to others. There you go, mix your gameplay up a little, dont rely on what you are comfortable with and change up your classes a bit.

Buff shotties back a bit , so we can rush them better

if somebody is good enough to snipe mid range, why should he be punished by nerfing snipers AGAIN

Just got a sexy new Longbow [spoiler]I lOVE IT[/spoiler]

All we do is snipe snipe snipe in work day, when we go to sleep at night we snipe snipe snipe a headshot in morning brightens up my day cuase all we do is snipe snipe snipe. A few more lines and loads more repeating snipe and I'll have a hit record to go with my snipeing.

Hey, about everyone shotguning at every game every map at close range is not fun either, not all the games are perfect, Bungie is already doing a good job listening to the community, they nerf the sniper once and now they are probably going to nerf it again because of some cry babies that complains about it

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I think a forced descope when you take precision damage would work pretty well. Snipers in PvE would be hardly effected, and in PvP they'll finally have consistent counterplay.