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Editado por GateofLeviathan:
5/11/2016 4:34:58 PM
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Revamp classic Raids.
Vault of Glass is one of my most beloved out of the three. The Vex lore is just so huge and mysterious. I would love to see these revamped for Year 2.
If anything, I would just put it to the Max Light level for more difficulty. But if they could, maybe add the Taken in a way, wouldn't make much sense, yeah, but hey, Year 2 Vault of Glass, why not?
What's your guy's thoughts on what they could do to improve Vault of Glass and Crota's End in Year 2? Add new features? Maybe new weapons to them? Let me know your thoughts in the comments.
But then the case with buying the Taken King bundle is pointless if nobody cares about The Dark Below, Crota's End is pointless only just for the weapons....and OH, GOD, House of Wolves was a mistake from the VERY beginning. Only the weapns and POE are even worth it in the pack. So it just still leaves as short of content from that $60 price if half is pointless now. And come to think of it, more so, that leaves vanilla Destiny half it's content useless, pointless and no use for even having it, Vault of Glass was a big part, but now it serves no meaning.
And I know " Well, you can still play them, no one's stopping you " Ok, smart ass, how can I if nobody wants to? How can I if nothing is to gain from them? How can anyone if nobody wants to? I post on LFG with no one interested.
Know why? Cause there is no reason to, no incentive, no better gear, they're too easy because of the maxed Light levels. So what the hell? You can keep saying they should focus on new content, BUT WHAT NEW CONTENT? Prison of Elders and Year 1 weapons brought BACK? That AIN'T new.
That " new " Nightfall ain't looking new to me, feels like I've played it in a Strike...HMMMM, I can't put my finger on it...* Cough *Winter's Run * Cough * They brought back old stuff, why would the Year 1 Raids be any different? This would at least be better with getting to pick more to choose from, rather than just do King's Fall over and over and over.
Til' they do " Add " " New " content, then come talk to me about " new content ". Maybe by then, the world has ended and we finally get something different.
If anything, give me a SMART, thought out reason why they shouldn't add them to Year 2, not just being a fu3king smart ass telling me I can still play them even though there's no incentive anymore and adding them in would increase more choices, and not doing OH, I don't know, the same Raid people have been doing for every week since last year with the same weapons, the same gear, and that is old ( Not to mention buggy as hell still ) and mind melting repetitive as hell? Hello, hello mcfly!
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As long as they don't fill it with Taken, sure. I hate the Taken so much.
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1 RespuestaEditado por The Chicago Way: 5/12/2016 8:45:53 PMIf they up the level, cool. If they Taken-ate it, no thanks.
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Here is why they haven't brought the old raids into year two... No one would play King's fall! Also having that many loot drops a week would mean every player would be 335 in a month maximums Think about it, if Crota and Atheon were relevant would you do King's fall? The armor is uglier, the weapons are garbage compared to the other raids, and the other ones aren't as harsh to get through. Hell, Crota can be solo'd. King's fall is stand here and snipe, stand there and snipe, ToM/snipe, ToM/snipe and at some points if one person goes down at some points you wipe. The old raids you could have one or even two people go down and still pull off clutch victories. You had multiple options for approaching encounters. Even without elemental primaries the old raid weapons just felt better and more impactful.
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1 RespuestaI don't see why they can't put the raids on rotation? So there is always only 1 raid a week that gives the endgame loot. Eg. If VoG was on rotation it'll drop up to 335 stuff, if not back to original values or brought up to something like 320. Then all the raids can be completed, at year 2 difficulty standards.
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Been trying to find a group all week to do vog. Once my old raid group done it. Easily the most fun I've had in destiny. Hoping one day I'll be able to run it again. Still shocked that their best content has been left behind
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The Taken King bundle can be bought cheaper than the Taken King standalone in most cases. I don't want raids revamped. It's a waste of effort and would reintroduce tons of OP weapons they want to leave behind. If they removed the OP weapons, most of you probably wouldn't care to have the old raids back or would only play it once and be done with it. Here's an excellent idea, go play the raids from the Director. Did VoG last week to help some friends. Shocking, right? Who knew you could play year one activities in year 2?
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I think they need to drop maybe from a pool of random gear
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2 RespuestasI agree but this could be a problem... recently Bungie has removed all elemental primary's from year 2 and so bringing back year 1 raids your reintroducing elemental primary's which would then have to make them balance out with every other weapon in the game.
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I personally believe that eventually they will make their way to Year Two, it's just a matter of when really. I have a feeling Crota's End would be the next one and followed by VoG being the main feature on the very last Destiny Update until Destiny 2 is released. It makes more sense that I believe. As far as revamping them, I want them to revamp Crota's End heavily since that raid is kinda disappointing and the weakest raid compared to VoG and King's Fall. I still expect the Taken to be on Crota's End since it's still part of the whole Hive/Taken Lore. VoG on the other hand might be different. I think we'll fight the Vex on that one instead of the Taken. I mean they are still a bigger threat than the Cabal and Fallen but yet we really havent dealt with them as much as we have dealt with the Hive and the Fallen. Sure there are strikes dedicated to the Vex but still not on the level we have faced against the Fallen and specially the Hive/Taken. So I still expect to fight the Vex in VoG (when it gets upgraded to year 2) but in a more twisted sort of way. We might even fight both since the Hive/Taken and Vex lore are closely tied to each other kinda. I wouldn't really revamp VoG though since it's still great just how it is rightnow. I would work on fixing the glitches that still exist in there though. To re-released VoG for year two with the same damn glitches is just dumb and stupid. As far as weapons and gear are concerned I expect to see the same treatment PoE weapons got. Primaries will lose their burns but will be buffed somehow to a point that it wont be useless. The only primaries I actually see keeping their burns would be The Vex Mythoclast and Necrochasm since they are both exotics. Light Level cap increase is also necessary IMO because if there is no Light Level increased then it wouldn't really make those raids any more relevant than they are now.
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With The amount of time it took bungie just to revamp Poe? No thanks. Bring us new things. Not old stuff most people have already done a shitload of times.
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Bring them up, BUT DON'T TAKENIFY THEM!
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Editado por Wells: 5/10/2016 7:49:22 PMLeave them be. New gear pretty much breaks Crotas end. raze lighter and twilight garrison make crotas end shorter than a regular strike
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1 RespuestaI've shared this with friends before and I stand by it. Only way to 'bring them back' is to adjust the perk set and elemental damage modifiers to keep the loot inline with current gear drops. That and include an emblem set and hard-mode shader for the Vault of Glass..
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Vault is the best and always will be
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If they brought 2 raids with TTK then we'd not be here. Maybe a fallen raid that we deserve with HoW but idk. If they were going to revamp the old raids, then do it when they are done bringing in new, fresh content for Destiny 1 so we can enjoy the the full game before Destiny 2 launches.
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The raids do not have a point in the storyline so it should be fine
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11 RespuestasI would like an up to date year 1 raid but honestly they should not waste there time. I think They are best off working on new content and news lore/story information. I really want them to work out providing a better understanding of the lore and the story. The Grimoire is nice but created to many fan theories with no fact to what is and what isn't.
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Editado por dalekseth: 5/10/2016 6:43:13 PMBring back VoG for the summer so we have something to do until September
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1 RespuestaI'd say bring back VoG only. CE doesn't really need a year 2...although I do miss my Black Hammer...T_T
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[quote]Vault of Glass is one of my most beloved out of them all. The Vex lore is just so huge and mysterious. I would love to see these revamped for Year 2.[/quote] There were only 2. lol VoG And Crotas End.
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They already -blam!-ed up the story beyond repair. -blam!- the story, give us some god damn fun.
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I know. If bungie doesn't ditch activision then destiny 2 is gonna be pay 2 win af
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They, along with PoE, shouldn't have been phased out to begin with. TTK did not bring enough content to replace them.
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I miss Skolas and Crota... Atheon is alright
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I'd make time to play again of VOG was back. It's the only good thing in destiny.
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4 RespuestasIf they bring back the year 1 raids, they cannot remain as they are. We have seen what comes of that (PoE). People will call it stale, unimaginative, and boring. The remaining Y1 players would grow bored of the raid as quickly as they did King's Fall. You could argue that the raids coming forward is to the benefit of the year 2 players who haven't experienced it, but they often arrive at the same sense of boredom with them as the rest of us. If the Y1 raids are to come back and actually mean something, Bungie will have to completely and absolutely overhaul them. It can't simply be a taken edition or something as plain as that. It needs to be something that actively defies how players, both new and seasoned alike, even think about them.
