Although I agree with you match making would fail cuass it needs a kick button cuass their is none and plus an unlawful kick report button just so we can kick the evil people and the next there people

For brand new players Id say wait for destiny 2, they missed the ship with this one. It's honestly similar to referring a friend to an old game when the sequel is already out.

I stopes reccomending destiny to new players. The game is great if you have it, but new... I simply won't say to go buy it.

Let's just be honest. I don't know who's fault it is. But they messed up with this game. Ya people play it because it's fun. But half the fan base hates the game in general. The rewards system is a limited and joke. You aren't rewarded proportionally for time played. I paid money for fun. But in fact this game is stressing me out. I play video games to get away from stress. So when a game stresses me out this much, that's a sign. Most pieces are useless and the armor you're left with to choose from is just so limited. Only a hand full of weapons are used in crucible because otherwise you suck. Classes aren't even and even sub classes aren't in any way. It makes you play the way the game wants you to play instead of how the player wants to, that is a fail in my eyes when it comes to a game like this. I don't want to be blade dancer in pvp. I like nightstalker. But I can barely get 1 kill with my super because the animation is so long, and the enemy just jumps to avoid my arrow. Because there are such limited items you tend to pick which one you want out of your choice of maybe 10 suitable armor pieces. But then you play for 3 months strictly for one piece and you might never get it. Well I guess I literally just wasted 3 months of my life. That alpha lupi chest piece is impossible to rng. The hunters got 5 helmets in a row from xur. Waste. 3oc used to give me 1/5 now it's more like 1/20. Hours of gameplay difference. Half your year one players left because it's so ridiculous all the choices made for the game. The game feels like it's against me personally, which again is a fail. Because I'm not complaining about service, I'm complaining about not getting what I want despite playing alot and grinding what I am told to grind. The whole system created was just bad. Rng lower usable items. Higher more useful items should be quested like the black spindle was. That way I'm not doing something over and over again for nothing. The fact you will give me Titan gear when I'm a hunter is dumb. I like playing auto rifle/scout, shotgun, sword. Hate fusion rifles and pulse rifles. So I go grind a nightfall or something really really hard for me. Finally get my reward and it's a fusion rifle. Well why did I just play. For something I don't want. And maybe once or twice is OK. But to almost never get a suitable reward for what I need, makes me debate if I should even go play because best chance is I'm going to get a reward of uselessness. You done -blam!-ed up. Just give me my alpha lupi chest that I've grinded over for 3 months now for. I can't stand it anymore and I'm about to go play the division, solely because I was told I will be rewarded for my time. Just like a job. Of course I will leave if I'm being treated this way. And my pay check is being with held but management just says, "keep coming to work, you'll get it eventually, stop being a bitch, I have your money, but every morning I role a dice to see if I should pay you, and it never comes up with your number. Sorry"

I stopped telling my friends about Destiny since it's kinda shitty in its current state...

I guess a new player could get more playtime out of Destiny with it's current relevant than some other games, but a lot of them would wonder what the -blam!- all that redundant content is, and why nobody wants to run it with them.

Since vanilla Destiny I've been the one telling people too not buy this game and too just save their money and get something else.

That story missions don't reward other than the one quest line is an immediate turn off

Honestly, 1 major piece of end game content is fine ... if, and only if, it takes a long time to reach end game. I've played other RPG games where it takes months to reach the top level, and top level players spent time helping others level up. In those games, intermediate content is relevant to progression. In destiny, you can easily max out level and reach 280 light in a week. The entire game is an endgame experience, so one piece of endgame content is insufficient.