I don't disagree about each class having perks and downsides. In a different game, I would argue that having certain classes be better at certain things was a good way of creating a player identity. But in a game like Destiny, where more and more Bungie is trying to promote gunplay and skill in positioning, mobility and ability use, classes with the greatest neutral game come out on top. This is usually horrible, because then if the class gets nerfed it ends up with a crappy super AND poor NG (think what happened to Sunbreakers but in reverse). Sunsinger and Nightstalker have, in terms of their neutral game, massive advantages over their counterparts to make up for the fact they have underwhelming/easily counterable Supers. I'd prefer to see Sunsinger's burn-based perks replaced with something more team-oriented. Aside from that, I think Super/NG balance is pretty good.

Sunsinger be broken

Yes we understand that but some advantages do not outweigh the disadvantages of certain classes when in competitive matches, hence the reason you see such similar class builds.

[b][u]THEYRE ALL OP, NERF THEM ALL[/u][/b] [spoiler]except bladedancers... Can't kill a thing with them anymore... [/spoiler]

[quote]When I play my [b]Striker[/b], I have advantages and disadvantages compared to when I play any other subclass. When I play my [b]Defender[/b], I have advantages and disadvantages compared to when I play any other subclass. When I play my [b]Sunbreaker[/b], I have advantages and disadvantages compared to when I play any other subclass. When I play my [b]Bladedancer[/b], I have advantages and disadvantages compared to when I play any other subclass. When I play my [b]Gunslinger[/b], I have advantages and disadvantages compared to when I play any other subclass. When I play my [b]Nightstalker[/b], I have advantages and disadvantages compared to when I play any other subclass. When I play my [b]Voidwalker[/b], I have advantages and disadvantages compared to when I play any other subclass. When I play my [b]Sunsinger[/b], I have advantages and disadvantages compared to when I play any other subclass. When I play my [b]Stormcaller[/b], I have advantages and disadvantages compared to when I play any other subclass. How difficult is this to understand?[/quote]

My manties are a tad moist from reading this. . . Top shelf OP

I love you, OP.

You the man bruh!

Nice use of copy and paste. It will work well on plagiarism.

It's just that some subclasses have longer lists of them. Bladedancer is heavy on the 'disadvantage' side. Thanks PvP-ers, thanks a lot.

Apparently this is very difficult for people to understand. When I get killed by a Sunsinger or a nightstalker, which happens just as often as I get killed by anything else, I just keep playing. I don't complaint about it on the forums and cry nerf.

I play voidwalker that's it. I like it, it's fun

Because it requires people to actually calm down and think instead of just going on an emotional tirade because their "favorite" is getting pub-stomped. I play all 9 sub classes and agree with this message from Shoulder Charge especially since Shoulder Charge Shoulder Charged it to the forums, lol.

i stopped reading at when but cool

Strikers are for plebs

I would enjoy all there characters but the only problem is the titans melee the range is so short

My secret scientific evidence says otherwise. [u][i]TITAN[/i][/u] [b]Striker[/b]... is good. Great at rumble and trials where 1vs1's are more common. Thrives off unskilled players, punished by pros. Basically worse than Gunslinger in almost every way, except for ease of use (when you're up close and the enemy DOESN'T have a shotgun) and the newly improved juggernaut (ultra useful for tanking snipes. Useless against TLW and AR's though...). Fun abilities. Needs perk rework and more close quarters dominance. [b]Defender[/b]... is good. Melee is kinda crappy though. [b]Sunbreaker[/b]... is underpowered. Great for solar burn. [i][u]HUNTER[/u][/i] [b]Gunslinger[/b]... is good. Kinda useless in PvE, especially with Nighstalker being a thing. [b]Bladedancer[/b]... is good. Some perks, namely quickdraw, are OP in PvP. Needs perk rework and balance tweaks (minor buffs/nerfs). [b]Nightstalker[/b]... is good. Maybe OP? Dunno, not my style. Godly in PvE and extremely effective in PvP (because of meta abilities: wombo combo (2 grenades, 3 with exotic armor), keen scout (super radar, see through walls), shade step, great super). [i][u]WARLOCK[/u][/i] [b]Voidwalker[/b]... is really good. Might be top tier for all I know. I've never had a bad experience. Not as stylish though. [b]Sunsinger[/b]... is good or OP. Best grenade (feel the burn! OP), best melee (range, +damage, burn, AND shield. OP), and super becomes stronger and stronger as team size shrinks. Self rez for small teams, radiant skin for large teams. [b]Stormcaller[/b]... is slightly OP. Good grenades, top tier melee. The super regularly accounts for 1/3 or more of your kills and has too many advantages. Extreme damage, duration, resistance, and speed. Becomes more and more OP as team size increases. It's also the most powerful crowd control class in PvE. tl;dr: Game is sorta balanced, but Defender melee is "meh," Sunbreaker sucks, and warlocks are OP.

I completely agree with this but I find it amusing that your name is "shoulder charge"