that's how it's supposed to work , but that doesn't mean it's a good thing . How are those .3 going to learn if they only play against noobs ? why should every player who plays decently be put into forced competitive matches ? It's basically saying "you're bad , you can't play "ranked-like" competitive" and "you're good , you can't play ANYTHING BUT "ranked-like" competitive ".

Idiot. That's like saying "How are PeeWee football players going to learn if they do not go up against NFL players"? Your argument is bullshit. Just admit you like to pubstomp to protect your K/D. Players of equal ability will get better playing others of like ability, just like oh every non pro sporting league under the sun.

Those .3's will either stay where they are at, or gradually get better. If they get better, they'll play stronger enemies.

[quote]How are those .3 going to learn if they only play against noobs ?[/quote] Ever play competitive sports in school? Are you asking me to believe that nobody ever improved by playing people in their same weight-class/division? Are you telling me nobody gets better by practicing with people of their skill level? Ever play a fighting game against a friend the day it comes out when you're both bad? Are you telling me neither of you improved ever from playing eachother? You just stayed bad forever? Here's how you don't improve. Spawn - Dead - Spawn - Dead - Spawn - Dead - Spawn - Run around a bit - Dead

that IS actually how you improve . No wonder they'd get destroyed if they play against slightly better players because they wouldn't be used to how they play , to how to counter them . I'll just take your example : when you're playing a fighting game with your friend for the first time , one of you will start finding combos or tactics that work well against the other , and then the other one will eventually find a way to counter those tactics . If you're both always doing exactly the same thing repeatedly , then there's no progress .

Again, that's completely counter-intuitive to how nearly every training and skill building exercise is actually done. You start with people your skill level and progress over time by building on a foundation of skill sets. You will either rise/fall in comparative ability over time. I get that the super sweaty feel like they're getting the shaft, but all that is really happening is they can't pub-stomp as easily any more. If your logic was the truth, then none of us, not a single player in this game would've ever gotten better since day 1. The only argument against SBMM that makes any sense is that the top and bottom of the skill pool is a relatively small % which shrinks the potential matchmade opportunities and causes additional lag. For the "meat" of the population, it's an improvement to pure connection based matchmaking. To be honest, I don't actually care which form they choose - I just think the "nobody will get better" argument is ridiculous. *EDIT* I just re-read your posts, and this particular statement cracks me up: [quote]why should every player who plays decently be put into forced competitive matches ?[/quote] I'm either misunderstanding your point, or we just disagree on the nature of competitive multiplayer.

Bro, how you gonna get better at squats without starting at 500 lbs? Some of the biggest guys in the gym are doing it, just do what they do to git gud.