It's annoying for Y1 players who had to deal with thorn, felwinters and the rest of the OP Y1 weapons forrrrevvvverrrrr and then once they are supposedly obsolete and we think we don't have to deal with them anymore they resurface because people use them as crutches. I am guilty of using the weapons some times but I don't need to use them to be competitive. I am no way saying that I am a PvP God or anything.