Honestly I hate people that cheese to win. It just makes the game not fun. Those weapons are completely broken and should really be nerfed to the point of complete uselessness. So now I load up into a match with the weapons I intend to use and as soon as people start to cheese by equipping icebreaker (or a sidearm) to get ammo because they can't get kills without special ammo or as soon as they equip a thorn I go ahead and equip mine. At least that way the playing field is leveled. It's just getting old.