Dear Bungie,
I'm so pissed with you Bungie for making this god-aweful quest. The sad thing is I know a bit about how game design works and I'm sure you had some guy come up with this quest and you thought "sure, why not" and threw it in without thinking much of it, but its so very terrible and pretty much just busted as a quest at this point. What I really want to point out is that this quest literally goes against everything that you've tried to build with Destiny. From decision and directions you've taken I can see that you are trying to make a game where your particular play style matters and where all weapons are even, and you just choose what you like best; however this quest doesn't do that at all (And by quest I mean just the first part called that tracks your crucible kills). So, first of all you force all people who want to beat this to equip a certain gun. Now, I know TLW is a strong weapon and people love it, but for whatever reason I hate hand cannons and suck at using them (I'm sure there are more like me). So, in this respect you are forcing me into a play style, specifically a play style I neither find fun, nor am good at. Now, this wouldn't be so bad; I mean its only one part of one quest right? However, that isn't all. Because you don't just make me use the freaking weapon, you say that if I'm not good enough at it, I WILL NEVER COMPLETE THIS QUEST. Why would you do that? How does this positively effect the game. First of all, I don't think any bounty or mission should have a reset on it. You should always be moving forward, because literally no one feels good about moving backwards; no matter who they are. Also, who does this help or make feel good about the game? Yes, its a cool thing for the lore that your skill matters, but think of the two types of players that will play this quest. There is the skilled person who loves TLW, who will see the quest, appreciate the lore; and steam-roll the event without really thinking twice. This guy doesn't care about the negative of losing points on deaths, and doesn't particularly care about them because it doesn't even matter. Now, the other type of person is me. I'm bad at TLW and when I do the quest I feel just awful the whole time. I'm forced into something I suck at, I'm worrying about every death instead of having any fun in the game. You've essentially made it so that I hate the game, I hate whoever made this quest and I wish that I would just die right on the spot overtime I turn on Destiny, making me more likely to just quit playing all together just because I'm not having fun. (Over exaggeration but you get the point, not fun) So, what you've done by punishing players for dying is give hardcore players something they don't care about and casual players something that makes them hate the game, does that sound like something you wanted to do? I wouldn't expect it. Now, to be honest, I'm not as bad as I sound typing this rant. I'm actually a pretty decent player and have done many matches where I streak and go 15 and 1 or 20 and 5 even with TLW equip. So, why am I writing this? I should've beat the quest step by now right? Nope, because you once again made a move in a direction that is exactly opposite of what this quest is doing. You introduced more SBMM (skill based match-making, though I'm sure you've heard of it enough by now to know). And you know I'm not super upset about it typically. I like playing people my skill level or above, its really fine. Except when you give me this bulls***. The idea of SBMM is to have all players k/d hover around 1.0, representing everyone being around the same skill in each match. Well, then what the heck are you doing here Bungie? This quest gives you +1 for a kill and -1 for a death, streaks in either direction push it more so. So, if you are at 1.0 k/d do you every progress in this god-forsaken quest? No. The answer is no. Its so terribly frustrating, because I will have great matches where I streak and murder everyone and go up 20% in the stupid quest and then I will keep getting matches by other people's freaking skill and drop around 20% or more. And it just cycles over and over. I can't f***ing complete this quest. Why would you design your game, in such a way that you are actively fighting your own game design? Why would you try to make players so terribly frustrated for no gain. I don't get it, and to be honest, I'm betting you never thought about how SBMM would effect this particular quest. Now, I write this as a loyal fan. I love the game and I play all the time, but I think you made a mistake here. I think that losing percent on quests and bounties is a 0 gain game for your company and Destiny as a whole. Please, just fix it, or bring back Sparrow Racing so I can cheese the stupid quest like all the other casuals did.
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2 RespuestasIt's a very hard quest, but stop making excuses. You either work for the gun or you don't deserve it at all.
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I accidentally got it done in IB, never actually tried to do it.
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Four months later and a buffed TLW and people are still bitching.
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Most games have achievements, quests or objectives that require a certain play style. This one is just much harder than most. Collectables require you to play a game more slowly with more exploring, not everyone plays like that so this quest is like collectables. Flawless raider requires you to have a full fire team and restart whenever you die, that is different from most play styles so it is the same. You are hair complaining because an exotic quest is a bit too hard for you. It reminds me of the thorn quest so t is nothing new
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I feel you man every time I get a crucible quest or bounty that forces me into a certain playstyle, I always seem to do worse because of it.
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Editado por burke: 1/30/2016 8:23:19 PMFinally bungie brings a [b]hard[/b] quest and all everyone does is complain about it. I have a 1.2 kd on my main character. I'm what you would call an "average player" and this quest took me 10 or so games. Destiny [b]needs[/b] more of quests like these.
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I'm a casual. I finished it in under 10 games. If you want honest advice, use a machine gun, a subclass with good grenades and a great super, and whatever secondary you feel comfortable with, and don't touch the last word unless you absolutely have to.
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1 RespuestaThink about this people that love pvp but suck at pve have to go through pve to get weapons too like ToM, no time to explain, boolien geminine, black spindle (these are the ones I could think of right now) but I atleast don't see us pvp players complaining about having to go through pve to get weapons, so I just like to say stomach complaining, suck it up, and learn that life isn't always fair
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2 RespuestasWay to long. Needs a TL;DR. Please add an abbreviated final paragraph that basically sums it all up
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Didn't bother to read any of it just thought I'd tell you that mine was glitched at 0% no matter how well I did I waited a week and went into zone control and it was done in 3 games
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1 RespuestaCompleted it in the first week. Also, do you know what a proper paragraph is???
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1 RespuestaIt's not that hard your just bad
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I hated this quest but got it done. It was before it got improved and I used it in iron banner with a year one version maxed at 170. I equipped it when I had my heavy or super and stowed it otherwise. It sucked but I figured since I was stuck doing iron banner anyhow I would go ahead and work at it. (I also equipped it at the end of a match that I knew we would win).
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More on a serious note.... The last word is really easy to use... And kid just jump into mayhem rumble and kill with your super and grenades it'll be over before you know it
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Git Gud Scrub
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Should have had the TLW equipped while doing SRL. That's how I completed the quest.
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Lol ur bad. I did it with year one tlw when hand cannons sucked and had been severely nerfed. U could head shot a person point blank and it's still miss, so stop crying.
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I completed it within the first day of TTK. Just keep trying. You may need to change your playstyle.
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Must have been a long dump you had sir. Lol
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2 RespuestasEditado por fallofstatic: 1/28/2016 10:10:04 PMThe quest acctuly fits into the lore perfectly. And honestly if you can't complete TLW part of the quest, you'll probably have an even harder time using the chaperone. It's a very high skill weapon that can be absolutely deadly in the right hands, and worse than a butter knife in the wrong hands.
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TL:DR- Panda Express is delicious, I want some Orange Chicken.
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This quest is for sure the hardest one of all IMO. The beauty of it is that you only need TLW equipped no don't have to actually use it. Not sure if you knew that but maybe that will help. Also you are having a bad game just unequipp the weapon and start fresh on a new map. Also I heard it helps to only equip when you have heavy with a machine gun. rack a few kills then rinse and repeat. I was only able to get to about 59 percent then I finished the rest of the quest with SRL
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4 RespuestasTry to use other weapons as well. Mayhem and heavy ammo help tons. I found this so much easier than the exotic swords and TFC. Practice is all that will help, otherwise.
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1 RespuestaI dunno. Honestly I didn't even read the post. I kept scrolling and kept thinking to myself omg how long is it? I have no valid response since I didn't read it. But I was trying to think of something humorous to say and The Great Wall of China popped in my head. But I scrolled down and someone already said it. So. Getting that out of the way, I still feel like I needed to post something. Just for the self satisfaction of knowing I was here. Wierd huh?