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Editado por irishfreak:
10/22/2015 4:40:39 PM
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Scrubs post here
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OP so gd jelly right now.
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Not gonna require it, but if I have one spot and 2 messages, both same subclass and level but one has ToM, I'm gonna choose the guy with ToM. He either has more time, or just simply put forth the effort to get it. Either way, it makes him more valuable.
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1 RespuestaWhere do you people go to find these people that ask for requirements. Like yeah preferred TOM but if not that's fine
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Editado por TheAbsoluteCool: 10/22/2015 3:47:01 PMI remember doing vault of glass at 260 with blue gear
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If it's required for certain parts of the Raid for a mechanic..yes. Otherwise could give a shit less.
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Just git gud scub
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Editado por JadeNovanis: 10/22/2015 3:46:04 PMWe have NO idea what Hard Mode entails. People are currently preparing for the worst. The ToM is currently the absolute BEST weapon for Oryx. Snipers and Machine guns work fine, but issues with ammo and reload time arise, where as, the ToM does not have that problem. The current assumption is that it will be considerably harder to stagger Oryx in HM. For now, untill we know full details on how HM is different, I am requiring at least 4 ToM users. Without them, there may not be enough DPS. And lastly, at this point if you are planning on playing HM, how do you not have the ToM yet? Gjallahorn was an issue because it was pure RNG. The malice requires an hour or 2 of your time max. If its just laziness then you may want to rethink trying hardmode.
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As far as I've heard, there's no evidence we'll even get an invincibility bubble for hard mode...making ToM much less appealing if that does turn out to be the case. Or maybe they could switch the bubble just to prevent incoming damage like Atheon bubble. It is hard mode, after all. Something is gonna happen to make that fight Hell.
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56 RespuestasEditado por V3G4SB0MB: 10/22/2015 1:43:21 PMTOM will be useless in hard mode. No aura of invincibility will be present rendering the weapon to a lonely spot in the vault. Edit for those to lazy to scroll down. This is IMO, speculation only. I will return tomorrow night pointing and laughing. Edit again. I'm also leaning towards the mechanics changing which would not require the aura, however unlikely this may be.
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You didn't even do any math haha
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#ohbruther
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14 RespuestasOk so he's calling me a scrub for having ToM and wanting other Gaurdians who put in the time and effort to obtain this weapon as well? What backwards ass world do you live in?
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Editado por Turferpop: 10/22/2015 3:34:27 PM[quote]I find snipers and lmg stagger oryx easier.[/quote] First off, anything staggers Oryx. I recommend ToM or/and LMG though because you don't have to stare into the sun when using them. Secondly. >ToM Infinite bonus damage to Daughters and Oryx when Hymn of Weaving is active >ToM per headshot on Daughters is about 5k >Black Spindle per headshot on Daughters is about 24k >BS 18 Shots, that's about 432,000 dmg if all shots are headshots. >ToM can get about 70 shots, that's about 350,000 BS looks better than ToM, right? Well, it depends if you can land all 18 shots on the daughters with BS. I know it's not that easy because they're not always facing you. I personally would rather have a legendary taking the secondary slot rather than an exotic. Seems like a waste to me. I mean, if you get ToM + a Fusion rifle for your ogre, it seems like a better pairing. For the ogres, I think it would be best to snipe the ogre across from you with BS though, but no one seems to like that strategy. Final conclusion ToM =/= BS. Use which ever. It's honestly not a problem. Also in response to your second edit, I haven't seen anyone exclude someone for not having ToM, but that's probably because I have a dedicated Raid team.
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I will never have weapon requirements for my hard team. However to be in my hard team you must have completed normal at least once.
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6 RespuestasEditado por ThisMahSwamp: 10/22/2015 2:38:28 PM[quote]You are a total scrub lets do the math.[/quote] I'm not seeing a whole lot of "math" in your post, simply some vague observations. [quote]I have it never raided with it I find snipers and lmg stagger oryx easier[/quote] Wut?! You have never used it, yet you say it is inferior for staggering Oryx..... That's funny. [quote]The people who require touch of malice are probably the same people who couldn't complete a single raid without a gjallarhorn[/quote] You are welcome to handicap yourself and your team however you would like for your first Hard Mode attempt. I for one have utilized ToM on multiple occasions and will choose to use it come Friday. [quote]we was around 294[/quote] [quote][b]we was around 294[/b][/quote]
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1 RespuestaA wise man once said, "The weapon does not make the warrior." You can have all the best weapons in the game, but people who are not good will still be not good. All about player experience. As long as you have the experience on your side you'll be fine for hard mode raid.
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I'm pretty sure Bungie never nerfed gally till it was outdated. And I also believe they only gave it to everyone because rng sucks. That being said everyone has the same opportunity to get Tom; so you need a new basis for y they will nerf it.
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1 RespuestaI agree def I'm a 308warlock anytime I see some fool with must have must be req. I just laugh and look for another raid most of the people who put all requirements to join their raid haven't even hit 300 they just weak and need badass guardians to carry them through TOM is cool but it can get boring if u don't switch it up
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8 RespuestasRaid requirements are one of the only ways to judge approximate skill level when you play with randoms. I don't care what requirement someone throws out on lfg, I'm probably going to meet or exceed it. They are requirements to play with the people who set them, not requirements to beat the raid. Look at it this way. Can you beat the raid with a rag tag band of misfit randoms who are using vendor gear? Eventually, probably, but it is almost surely going to take a couple hours and a lot of wipes. Now, imagine going to lfg and setting raid requirements that guarantee a minimum of experience and capability in the raid. You will probably get it done in an hour or less with minimal wipes. Unless you enjoy banging your head against the wall of course. Then feel free to post on the forums about how requesting for people to be on at least an equal playing field with you gear wise is stupid and skill-less. Enjoy your sporadically random and minimal success rate in the raid.
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2 RespuestasThey probably will find a way to make it useless against Oryx. Like removing the invulnerability bubble.
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My only complaint about raid requirements are when the requirement is 300+ light and the OP is at 294. I joined a group for a fresh run that required at least 300 light, ToM, and at least 10 completions. My mic wouldn't work in game chat and 2 people's party chat didn't work. I sent messages saying I know the whole raid inside out and to just tell me what position to play and I'll do what I can. We didn't wipe once and cleared the raid in a little over an hour. It was pretty nice
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The guns only use is for the raid, people asking for it makes sense. Other then that it sucks, pretty sure they won't nerf it. Ghorn decimated everything in that game, big difference.
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If guns make you as a player, you are not a player.
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2 RespuestasYou bitch about how I want experienced players in my raid group? Seems like you want to control what everyone does and tell them how they should play.
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13 RespuestasThankfully, I raid with my 5 friends each week - I don't have to LFG with 'tards that fail at basic math. [b]Spindle is the highest [i]burst[/i] DPS in the game currently. Malice is the highest [i]sustained[/i] DPS in the raid currently.[/b] All six of us have a (newly re-infused) 310 Black Spindle and a Touch of Malice. All of us are 307-309 and more importantly, all of us will be defeating Oryx on Hard Mode before YOU.
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I did normal today and got freaking shards all the way through (well and a 290 the last word?!) Looking forwards to tomorrow, with my touch of malice.
