[i]Ok, so i have steeled myself against any and all toxic replies this is bound to get. I sprayed my soul with Teflon so your accusations of noobness and your advice to "get gud" will fall on deaf ears. [/i]
Here is the truth about the "crutches" as certain type people like to call them.
Destiny was built on a tiered weapon system.
You get crap guns, good guns, and some great guns. You aspire to get the better guns because killing an enemy with an under leveled gun (ala green tier) is unsatisfying because it takes too long to kill an enemy (TTK). I'm sure on this point we can all agree. And of course, the GREEN guns were placed in the game by Bungie, who created the game, and intended us to use the weapons they created.
Still with me? I hope your train of thought has not been derailed yet by the urge to post something negative about my game playing skills.
As we rise in level, and fight progressively stronger enemies, we have the need for better guns and gear, so BLUE guns fill the gap. These guns kill faster! They have better perks! They allow us to have more options to destroy enemies FASTER. I'm sure on this point we can all agree. And of course, the BLUE guns were placed in the game by Bungie, who created the game, and intended us to use the weapons they created.
Still with me? I hope your train of thought has not been derailed yet by the urge to post something negative about my k/d.
Of course, we all know how it goes from here. Eventually, we realize that although the blue guns we are using are nice, it would be even better to be able to kill the enemies FASTER. So we spend our time hoping and dreaming for a LEGENDARY weapon to drop or be able to purchase. Now we start to really be able to kill enemies FASTER. We start to feel more powerful and start to have better time killing enemies and dealing death. The LEGENDARY guns were placed in the game by Bungie, who created the game, and intended us to use the weapons they created.
Still with me? I hope your train of thought has not been derailed yet by the urge to post something negative about my weapon loadouts.
And then WHAM! We do a Nightfall, beat a raid boss, or visit Xur, and we now have access to Top Tier weapons called EXOTICS. These guns are the pinnacle of perks and come with many interesting variables on how to KILL THE ENEMIES FASTER. They have more damage, more ways to kill enemies, more fun to use. The EXOTIC guns were placed in the game by Bungie, who created the game, and intended us to use the weapons they created.
Still with me? I hope your train of thought has not been derailed yet by the urge to post something negative about my grimoire score.
We run the same strikes, missions, raids, crucible matches over and over and over and over and over again. Eventually, we have tried all the other guns, and they are great and all, but certain guns, for us, are more enjoyable to use.
Some of those GREEN, BLUE, LEGENDARY and EXOTIC guns are so great, we enjoy them so much, that they become our favorite guns. Why use the other guns when a certain type of gun fits our unique playstyle? Once we get the adequate burns and loadouts to deal with each situation we will encounter in the ENTIRE game, we settle on our favorites. It's human nature to utilize that which is most effective. Why use a dull shovel when there is a sharp shovel, which will dig better?
Still with me? I hope your train of thought has not been derailed yet by the urge to post something negative about my choice of communication with you today, because my point is made.
"WHAT?!?!?" you say, "I havent even found the part that makes me upset yet?!?!??"
And in this, we have come to the end of our sermon, brother guardians.
[b]Everyone who uses a gun other than the original Khostov you start with IS USING A CRUTCH.[/b]
SO now that we understand each other, the next person who posts about how using an effective weapon, placed in the game by Bungie, who created the game, and intended us to use the weapons they created, is a "CRUTCH" is a hypocrite.
Thank you for reading this guardians.
I await your measured and balanced feedback.
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#Destiny
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4 RespuestasSo if Bungie made more variety of top tier guns for destiny then maybe this crutch thing wouldn't be so limiting. Expand the number of legendaries and exotics. Therefore a more varied choice will enable players to pick a gun more suited to their playstyle rather than pick the most op (and sometimes the less skill to use) gun.
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Except we don't kill enemies faster with normal progression of guns. Take the khvostov and kill level 1s and then take a 365 auto without a glass half full perk to kill the same level 1. Guess what? It doesn't die any faster. The progression of guns has nothing to do with killing enemies faster. It has to do with dealing the guns optimal damage against a set level. Want more proof? Take a duke, white hand cannon, in crucible. Then take last word without the perks. Guess what? You're not killing people any faster. The only difference that is supposed to exist from green to blue to purple to exotic is the perks. Not that you can just run up to a 34 void shielded Minotaur in PoE and one shot him with a void legendary shotgun.
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14 RespuestasDon't pay attention to the trolls. They saw a large portion of the community was upset with the 2.0 announcement and decided to have some fun. The BS they spout about Black Hammer, Ice Breaker, and Gjallarhorn being a crutch is just that BS. We play a game based on an RNG loot table and as we all very well know that table can be very fickle and nine times out of ten very disheartening. We've all read the stories about NF's yielding 10 Strange Coins or junky Legendary after junky Legendary. Why would anyone in their right mind expect members of this community to not use the best gear at their disposal to breeze through the content when possible? If they want a challenge then that's fine and dandy, they can run all the NF's or Raids using melee only to their heart's content, but don't lecture us on how we chose to play the game, we paid for it and it's our time, not theirs.
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1 RespuestaBump, can I copy and paste this to crutch threads with a link to this post and your name with it?
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Nerf crutches, too OP.....
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I don't know...a hand cannon that can kill you faster than a LMG can seems kind of crutchy
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Your idea of a crutch seems to be wrong. Gally is considered a crutch because it always used to cheese a boss. Just look at the POE 35 team finder, No gally, no join. Yes, the game has a tiered weapon system, but uncommon & rare are pretty much moot. They are only there to balance the game as you level up to 20. Once you hit 20 it is legendary & exotics. However, even Legendaries can be upgraded to near exotic levels. The thing that makes exotics exotic is their unique perks, like the wolfpack on the gally, or devourer on Thorn. That doesn't mean they should be unbalanced and only method people use to achieve something.
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Editado por Project Zero: 7/19/2015 9:41:03 AM[b]Didn't read.[/b]
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2 RespuestasI agree with what your saying besides alot of it is hear say anyway !! With the thorn thing people go on about it so much how good it is so more people use it . Blissfully in aware that tlw ttk is less than thorn and is also a 2 head shot kill . If everyone started posting nerf tlw it's op it's time to kill is way to fast people would start using it more . And yes everyone is always going to have fav guns exotics should be amazing it's more the fact they made some many exotics so lacking rather than certain ones overpowerd . Also it's not viable to use exotic primary's in Pve due to the lack of burn witch makes raid primary's better. So for Pve they already limited to spesh and heavy . Truth is decent db is rubbish gally is better than truth most people prefer rockets therefore gally will be used ALOT .
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Post too long. Got confused. Penis stuck in window again.
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5 RespuestasExotics aren't meant to be the 'best', they're meant to be unique
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1 RespuestaEditado por WickedCosmos: 7/18/2015 10:32:04 PMOp I see you n hear your point n reply this. [spoiler]I followed you only for disappointment[/spoiler]
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Editado por Artesians: 7/19/2015 8:17:14 AMSo Khvostov = instant OG status? [spoiler]You've strayed far from the Flood... And managed to successfully infiltrate #Density and shitpost... Impressive. Who sent you? Purse?[/spoiler]
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2 RespuestasLol you wrote all of that and the said in the last line every other gun in the game, other than the first one we get, is a crutch. Heres a thought. A crutch is used for helping yourself walk when you are otherwise able to. You follow? So if you are unable to use 99% of the games skill needed weapons, you are unable to walk anymore. Therefore you lean towards gun that have been overlooked and are too powerful, in certain situations. Why somebody would enjoy playing a game with no challenge or skill base, day in day out, is beyond me. Watch after a the rebalance, better players will stand out more. Which is how it should be. So that nooby players strife to actual get better instead of using CRUTCHES because they cannot walk. You follow?
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5 RespuestasEditado por F1durb: 7/18/2015 7:13:38 PMExcept your argument is invalid, if all exotics where viable options then you might have a point (but you don't, you really don't, smh at this retarded post) but all exotics aren't good options, only 2 or 3 of them are good options so anybody with half a brain can realize there was something wrong, if everyone was running around with hardlights and mida and necro even nobody would care but that isn't the case you have a couple weapons that are god tier weapons and obviously that shouldn't be the case
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The problem is that while Gjallarhorn is on the same tier as most exotics, i.e equally easy to get, it is significantly stronger than the other exotics. That kind of power gap would be appropriate for raid exotics or tough bounty exotics, but not really for a regular exotic like Gjallarhorn which Jim just earned from going 0-30 in crucible.
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Agreed!
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Yes, this is -blam!-ing awesome.
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3 RespuestasDerailed one last time. What's a crutch?
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Editado por Sevencron: 12/14/2016 11:24:22 AM[Error]
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Tldr: Bungie did a great job on nerfing these crutches :) let them salty tears flow
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20 RespuestasCertain exotics were too OP. Exotics is basically on the same tier as legendary only they have there own unique perks and looks. Exotics doesn't mean do more damage than legendary, hence they have the same attack power. Each tier weapons have different attack on them from green-yellow and legendary and exotics are the same attack. The only thing that separates them is the uniqueness of perks on exotic and looks.
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2 RespuestasTechnically, greens don't kill slower than blues and purples. Most have the same impact and fire rates as each other, meaning same TTK. The only difference is overall stats and perks, which slightly augments TTK in favor of legendaries, obviously. Also, cool it with the snarky talk