[quote]Yet since SBMM has been removed pvp numbers in quickplay has dropped and the increase in posts echoing that SBMM is the reason they stopped playing pvp has increased! so yeah your entitled to your opinion but QP has become very sweaty on the PC and is only getting worse as more people avoid it and only sweaty players are left....[/quote]You realize that number dropped has nothing to do with sbmm removal right? It's just that people git 600 and moved on to rdr2 or other games, in fact when bungie dropped sbmm in qp pvp had the highest numbers since launch [quote]Personally I prefer playing games with people at or around my skill level as its challenging but fun! I can improve steadly and move up but without SBMM its too varied and most of the time your just getting stomped which is not fun![/quote]You may very well be fighting people on your skill level, just has to do with rng matchmaking, the match may put you against players who stomp on you, who you stomp or even matches, fair in its randomness. Also sbmm actually removes all incentive to improve, theres no point if you competition just goes up as well [quote]There is no good reason not to have SBMM in all modes the only people that dont like it are the people at the top who want easy games instead of games with people at their own level!![/quote]There's actually a ton of reasons, it's been tried twice now and majority hated it both times firstly, also it adds lag and search times, makes different skill level friends not want to play together, teaches new players that strategies that work on weak players will work on everyone which get ingrained and cant be switched easily, removes reason to improve, forces sweaties to compete in mlg tourney style games each match and punishes them for simply being good. They dont have more shields or deal extra damage. There should never be any form of sbmm in an unranked playlist. That is the entire point, quickplay by definition is meant to grab the first possible players and toss them in together, in no other game community have I ever seen players asking for dev protection from the better half in non-competitive modes. You want a balanced game? Go to comp, qp is for matching everyone and anyone

Here's the thing. You just -blam!-ed up your own fact. So pre forsaken...do you mean the patch for forsaken or do you mean the forsaken launch date. If you mean the patch which put special weapons in both primary slots pvp number when up drastically... In the warmind update is when the SBMM was removed my dude...it was recently put in again it feels like They didn't go down. I mean more people might be leaving because of the shot gun spam but this happens with every meta. The number go up an down. So irrelevant point on your part BUT they might be going down faster because we've been through this meta before I will give you that. If you're talking about post launch there are still plenty of players leveling up characters. I'm still leveling up most of my characters and I only play on two of them lol (-blam!- Titans, yes I said it).

No it doesn't. It reads he wants lower skilled players to play lower skilled players. But the fact of the matter is you cannot become better if you don't get mistakes punished. People of a lower players skill won't be able to punish that players mistakes because they won't know he made one. The thought processes aren't the same. With that being said, each "level" of skill has a subset of differing skill levels. The NFL has many teams, all of them are not equally skilled. The current worst team in the league, the raiders, still have to play the best team in the league, the Rams. They don't just get to skip that game. The score will not be close unless the Rams are just -blam!-ing around. It will be a beat down. Just like this video game. A good player using non meta weapons is not as dangerous as a good player WITH meta weapons.