Ok, then simply ban them.

Caitlyn* Jenner. It's been legally changed to this, why do you feel the need to disrespect someone who has chosen to exercise their constitutional freedom? I'm going to choose to ignore your very typical exemplification of subverted bigotry to reiterate the question that you failed to answer. I don't feel like redundantly arguing with someone who is unable to objectify their thought process over sociological topics. The overrepresentation of blacks in violent crimes, why is that so? This is all I ask. It's a simple question, truly. The only defining aspect you gave of the sample group which is found to be disproportionately causing violent crimes is the color of their skin. So, the only logical implication of this is that their skin color causes them to create more crime. Is this not what you're saying? Further, is this statistical generalization helpful towards the notion of lowering crime rates? Is displaying the fact that more blacks commit violent crimes than whites going to stop these crimes? Are you not relinquishing personal responsibility from black individuals by categorizing violent crime in this country as a "black" problem, something these individuals can't control? How do we solve this problem? If we only define a single metric by which we assert this problem is being caused by, i.e. race, than the logical implication to be made is that the problem will be solved by forcing the particular race out of the country, no? Is that how we go about lowering violent crime rates? Exonerating all other factors which influence violent crime, because skin color is a more easily understood concept than developmental psychology?

That isn't a solution. Telling people to stop doing what you believe they're already doing isn't going to stop the issue we're faced with. You can feed me statistics after statistics showing blacks in a bad light, and I'm not going to disagree that they are disproportionately represented in these negatives of society, but we have to understand why that is. If you posit that it is solely because they are black, that is by definition racism, and the only solution would be to remove blacks from society. I'm not calling you a racist, I'm merely saying that in portraying this as a [i]black[/i] problem, you are perpetuating the cause of racism that you've literally just defined. So, if we wish to stop racism, and formulate a plan by which a certain race is not disproportionately represented in society's negative aspects anymore, then we have to look at the problem [i]without consideration of race[/i]. Let's look at how these people are being influenced into creating these statistics. Let's take a few things into consideration: -Population distribution -Educational opportunity -Financial opportunity -Community presence -Family & general home structure -etcetera You'll find that [i]anyone[/i], regardless of race, will be contributing more towards these negative statistics you've given of blacks, if they grow up in a high population density, low-income area, where substance abuse, violence, family disparity, and lack of community intervention are prevalent. You'll find that blacks are disproportionately growing up in these situations, hence them disproportionately representing these negative statistic. You'll find that these situations garner a less optimistic outlook on life, and that opportunity to escape these situations is harder to come by due to the population density. You'll find that substance abuse is more common in families of a single parent. You'll find that a single parent has a more difficult time sending their children to secondary education, and thus less children of single parents living in low-income areas will attend secondary education. You'll find that crimes rates are inversely proportional with amount of schooling, and so on and so forth. This is a multi-dimensional issue that is not solved by blaming the color of a person's skin. So, to go off of what [i]you've[/i] said, let's stop screaming about race, and address the actual issues, and provide actual solutions, instead of giving blanket statements that won't change a thing.

The only thing that can be logically deduced from the comment is that the color of their skin is the cause of the increased gun violence, because the subject group is defined as the cause for the increased gun violence, and the only defining aspect of the subject group presented is their skin color. Don't make inductive leaps in order to make statements more agreeable, it is fallacious to do so. Here's the issue I have with this sort of argument. It doesn't offer any logical solution other than "don't be black." It's like, okay. We're more violent because we have more black people. That's the argument you wish to make, correct? How do we fix this? Force the black people out?

[quote]We also have a higher proportion of blacks, who in turn are responsible for a greater proportion of the crime in almost all cases, with illegally obtained firearms. We don't have gun legislative problems, we have a cultural problem that's getting progressively worst the more liberal the U.S. gets.[/quote] All right folks let's find the racist.

It's not as violent as people think, the reason being how we record crime in the UK. Any "crime against a person" is recorded as a violent crime. Most are not even physical, even verbal abuse is recorded as a violent crime in the UK. Also as we know, US news reporting also hasn't helped the way the US see the UK, with bullshit stories of cities over run and police no go areas, which they then admitted as false.

Exactly