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9/26/2015 10:21:44 AM
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I love this post. Very well said.
Yeah, that's pretty much the reality of the situation. I mean at the end of the day, those who refuse to continue supporting this bullshit will eventually leave altogether and never come back. The Fanboys cheer and act all happy about this with that "Bye Felicia" tripe that Bungie just continues to let happen. And yet what they fail to realize is that the community is losing people because of it and those people are leaving with a horribly negative opinion about the game and the companies involved with its handling and development. In turn, this damages Bungie's reputation which they spent years building up.
Eventually, it will come a time when the whole thing just caves in on itself and when they end up having to create a new game? There won't be nearly as much support for it after everything that they've been doing here. Destiny will continue on with all the drug addicts who can't find the willpower to put it down.
Its the sad truth.
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Now you all know what players that never bought an expansion for an MMO feels like and that no matter how much you all denies what Destiny is it is for all intent and purpose a MMO shooter.
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For the love of Pete (whoever Pete is)... NO MMO has ever negatively altered the vanilla game with the release of an expansion like this. None. Not one. Expansions are exactly that, additional content. In point of fact, WoW has always released older expansions for free to all players, effectively making them part of the vanilla game. While you might experience item envy as a non-expansion customer, you still have all the items you could get yesterday. And Destiny isn't an MMO. Unless the first M is supposed to stand for "minimally".
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I keep saying this yet it keeps popping up as some excuse for the shitty way this game treats its players... It's not an MMO, it's s FPSRPG at best...
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For the most part is a positive change though you see it as otherwise as a great many people who refuse to buy the game tend to say about taken king. The entire vanilla setting and quests and rewards was completely reworked when Cataclysm came out so actually there has been a FAR WORSE example then such a tiny title as Destiny. They have worded it wrong because it's more like a Realm Reborn. A vast makeover of the previous version of the game. Bungie did not clarify. WoW released previous expansions for free LONG after their use expired why you buy Destiny now it comes with Taken King and the previous out of date expansions. You can still get the same goodies from all raids/prison of Elders which is considered end game content for such expansions/games. rep gear seemingly out of reach now however since they merged the previous expansions into the core game. Again Massive is relative. So I responded to every statement you made but unlikely to mean anything to you. The only reason I will not buy another game from them because like previous times I hit a wall with a lack of matchmaking for raids.
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No, I understand what you're saying, and yes, it Cataclysm altered the vanilla game, even for non-Cataclysm owners (and before it was released for free). There was some debate on whether this was positive or negative, but regardless, I stand corrected. However, it was (and is) still possible to access most of the activities and areas, simply with post-Cataclysm settings and rules. It is still possible to purchase gear from vendors. Most importantly (to this conversation), fighting that same horde of orcs has the same chance of dropping the same types of items. And yes, I could raid or PoE for a specific set of items, but I don't raid or PoE. The most I've ever done is put a toe in each raid to see what it was like. When that toe was chewed up and spit back out at me, I recognized that upper level endgame content was beyond my skill and desire. What I did was play PVE and expect level appropriate drops, or occasionally run a heroic strike or strike list and expect level appropriate drops. My entire point was that they removed my level appropriate drops. What exists to me now is either underpowered, under-perked (or both) or unobtainable. As I said, they removed the winning combinations from my slot machine.
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Really? where is the original Onyxia raid for level 60? Just saying. (psss they moved the raid up due to cataclysm since it was Deathwing's kid. So yes fundamental things DID change. That also includes rewards since the quests do not exist to give the original ones and were replaced by different if not better; ones.)
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Editado por Scooter MacLeod: 10/9/2015 5:22:55 AMYou're right. They raised Onyxia to 80 for the 5 year anniversary (not for Cataclysm). So five years later, they took ONE of the vanilla raids away, and raised to to the then current level. To do you one better, the level caps did make Battlegrounds near impossible for anyone who didn't upgrade (much like ToO or Iron Banner). However, as I keep saying, Destiny isn't WoW. It isn't even a scaled down WoW. It's not an MMO, it's a shooter with a couple of multiplayer online elements. It also isn't a subscription. If it was I wouldn't be having this conversation, or this problem with their business practices. Regardless, if you insist on continuing to compare WoW with Destiny... while Blizzard did rework one raid *five* years later, they still didn't remove the entire two upper classes of items from the non-upgraders. They didn't remove difficulty selection. They didn't TAKE AWAY anything but one raid for a special case (and, eventually, the things that just no longer fit into Cataclysm). Now, even if you want to say that these things ARE as strong as the change to Destiny (and cataclysm *is* as strong a change, though the negative/positive impact is up for debate), AND that comparing this ACTUALLY MASSIVE online world to Destiny is valid, AND that comparing a SUBSCRIPTION game to Destiny is valid...THIS WAS SIX YEARS AFTER THE RELEASE OF VANILLA, not one. It was TWO years after the release of the previous expansion, not four months. Not to make out that time is a factor in purchasing a game. I've stated before, I bought the game, not rented or subscribed. I expect to be able to play the game I bought 1, 5 or 10 years later...not some bastardized version with no difficulty selection or level appropriate weaponry. I can still play Halo 3 (and do), that's why I *buy* games.
