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2/6/2015 6:57:47 PM
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thorn poison in pvp...

Another update goes by and the poison dart on the thorn still hasn't been nerf'd from pvp. What are your opinions on the thorn in pvp? And if you use it regularly, don't bother commenting ;-)

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    You should be nerfed for being an annoying cry baby

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  • [quote]Let's consider some points shall we •The Thorn bounty is the hardest exotic bounty in the game. It requires the most time and skill out of the exotic bounties. Therefore, it is only for that theI don't think Thorn is OP. Let me make that clear. I believe the only thing left to balance the crucible is buffing the auto rifles. That's it. The best weapon be rewarded for the hardest task. •Red Death can kill a guardian at full health with two pulls of the trigger, just like Thorn. There's a counter. •The Last Word does 77 damage I think per headshot and there's a glitch where it can possible do around 111. That means the last word can two shot you and with the rate of fire being twice as fast as Thorn's, it's an easy counter. •Two [b][i][u]precision[/u][/i][/b] shots can kill someone when using Thorn. Let me ask you, doesn't a steady hand need to be rewarded when playing the crucible? If you allow a Thorn user to land two headshots on you, then you've been out played. You could have killed him first, dodged the bullets, or simply avoided the encounter. To blame your death on the gun is irresponsible, and frankly childish. Blaming your lack of skill on the opponents weapon. And yes you can say "Look at my KD! I have skill!" But if you lack the competence to interject one of those three methods, you have no skill. •If you want to get technical, it takes three headshots to kill someone with Thorn. Considering the burn will kill you with two headshots, allow about 3 seconds for the opponent to get off a couple of rounds at you. Considering the Thorn user didn't ambush you, you should be able to kill him before the burn kills you. Again, considering you have skill. •Thorn was meant to be a long to mid range weapon, rivaling that of some scout rifles. To nerf the range of Thorn would render the weapon useless, because that's where it was intended to excel. •Nerfing Thorn's signature perk would reduce the weapon down to a standard handcannon. Making it not worth the exotic slot. •Thorn isn't an RNG drop. You are welcomed to pick one up yourself since it's so "overpowered" in your eyes. If I were you, I'd pick one up instead of whining about it like a Christmas noob. •No land beyond, universal remote, three little words, red death and Hawkmoon can all kill you in two shots or less. And if you take in the glitch, so would the last word. So to say there isn't s counter for the weapon would be idiotic to say the least since I counted 6 weapons off of the top of my head that kills just as fast. •If you are going to nerf Thorn because of it two shoting people, by fairness, you should nerf the weapons mentioned in the previous bullet point. In conclusion, stop putting your head in the way of the poison daggers. Guaranteed 100% foolproof solution to your problem.[/quote]

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    • Just nerf PvP.

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    • They don't call it "Thorn" for show you know. Besides they already nerf it slightly way back when.

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    • It's fine . It's an exotic it's supposed to be good and sought after.

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    • Then what are we suppose to call it? Splinter? I typically use tlw or hawk moon

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    • The poison is Thorn's exotic perk: the only reason Thorn IS exotic is that poison. It shouldn't be nerfed. Also, note my lack of a Thorn: I'm not defending my crutches or anything, I'm giving an honest opinion.

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    • Bump

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    • Stop. Rethink life. -blam!- off.

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    • [quote]And if you use it regularly, don't bother commenting ;-)[/quote] So what? The experts on thorn don't get a say? And only the noobs killed and complaining about it get to comment? Sounds biased, bro.

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      • Use Red Death if you kill him/her you'll instantly recover and negate the DOT effect. Each exotic shines in it's perk learn to use it and you'll have fun.

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        • Edited by waubbly: 4/17/2015 5:30:14 AM
          Thorn does less intial damage per headshot than hawkmoon and tlw. The burn evens out damage and puts the gun on par with the other 2. Honestly if a player is lucky or good they can survive a 2 headshot from thorn. There is no chance of surviving a 2 head shot from the other two exotic hcs. As for the range. It is what makes the gun unique. Tlw word has speed, hawkmoon has its extra damage perk, and Thorn has range. You have to give up a lot of stability though to get the send it perk. Honestly I think people get pissed when they die from the burn. If it had been another hc they would have already been dead. Tl;dr It is an exotic. It is meant to -blam!- shit up. Deal with it.

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        • I put in the time to do the thorn bounty and I get killed quite a lot by it in the crucible, it's not broken and doesn't need nerfed . adapt your game.was not so long ago per were bitching about the vex,and before you ask no I don't have it,point being it's a game,get the bounty and get yourself a thorn.

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        • I don't think there's anything wrong with the poison at all. It lasts a little long but it's not nearly long enough to warrant any kind of changes.

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        • What weapon don't pvp players want nerf'd ....you will all be running around with sticks at this rate......

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          • Lol the only reason I use Thorn is to counter other Op weapons. Dude's really good with The Last Word, you bet I'm gonna pull out my Thorn. Besides that, I'm pulling out my big stick ( No Land Beyond )

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          • Do you remember how thorn was before it got buffed?

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          • Thorn is for scared boys who need op weapons to win because they cant hit head shots with a scout or sniper rifle. Spam that shit all day. Cant actually hit your target enough times to kill them legit? Dont worry. DOT is there for your weak ass.

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            • I use my bad juju over my thorn my opinion though is it doesn't need a nerf. I do as well with it as I do with other weapons. That tells me it is actually pretty balanced.

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            • Thorn is good as it needs to be. No nerf or buff leave it until the end of time.

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            • The users that use it regularly would most likely give you the best answer...lol

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            • I use Thorn a decent amount in pvp, and there's only a few times (maybe one or two a match) where the poison has been the reason that I've gotten a kill. Most of my kills are still from headshots, just like with any other hand cannon

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            • First please don't stop those who use the thorn from replying that's just rude. Secondly good ... Its already proven its kill time is greater than that of other weapons meaning you can at least stand a chance to return the killing blow. I'm thinking most of these need cries fornthorn come from Xbox players as they've yet to be hit by the one shot killer that hawkmoon

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            • I use it all the time because you have to in certain games, annoying

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            • Edited by Northern: 4/16/2015 11:59:40 AM
              I kill and get killed with Thorn, it's fine.

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