There isn't nearly as much team coordination required, even without the cheese. I'm not a super experienced raider, so maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like Bungie designed the Crota raid to be easier for random teams vs the VOG raid that really requires a well oiled machine.
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Cause it's a strike mission not raid. I can you call this a raid when a full team is optional.
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I find that Crota requires much more communication. Timing is key and communication is important for that.
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Edited by Kankunation: 1/17/2015 8:14:50 PMunlike VoG, crota does not require a full team to complete. with VoG, you couldn't even open the door without a team of at least 3, and even then it was very difficult without another 3 to help deal with the vex. with crota, its completely possible, albeit highly difficult, for a single person to run through the whole thing. without assistance (which has been done). Simply put, crota has nothing that requires cooperation in it like VoG did.
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Alot less time spent on Crotas End.
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6 RepliesImo, Crota is a teamwork raid. If you work well with your team you will fly through it. VoG was a puzzle raid, you can two man it if you figure out all the puzzles
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1 ReplyTo be honest mate I've had a lot more problems finding a team capable of crota than I ever do with VoG...
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Yeah I did my first CE complete last night and I did notice it was a bit easier.
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1 ReplyI'm not judging anything until hard mode. Then we'll see if teamwork is really required or not.
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2 RepliesEdited by Roughneck: 1/17/2015 7:08:34 PMActually, it's the very thing you say is not required in CE: team coordination. Whether you realize it or not, there's a good amount of team coordination in CE. People typically have set rolls that can be assigned to each player for each fight (i.e. sword carrier, enemy suppression with a sniper, chest runner, witch bait, etc). VoG Atheon is the complete opposite considering the ports are completely random. Also, fights like the Templar also use a lot of RNG in terms of where orbs spawn and where the Templar ports. CE fights are much more predictable and scripted allowing for team coordination that has become mechanical and second nature (not a bad thing imo). Also, don't forget this is still just normal. Go do normal VoG and I'm pretty sure you'll breeze through that as well.
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2 RepliesIt's vex tendencies compared to hive. Vex are complicated require excessive communication whereas the hive are brute and rely on strength and numbers. So if u use brute force at the hive ull beat them not necessarily great team work.
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Because the Bungie Dev team if -blam!-ing stupid and spits in the face of the word raid
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2 RepliesCrota to me feels like a story mission, the end fight is literally all timing based. Vog takes more communication from the off, I cleared Crota on my Titan with the sword bearer unable to even use a mic this week
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Crota is shorter, but I am kind of thankful for that. It is a lot of fun. I still like VOG best just because of all the great memories "can't replace the first haha" but they are both really enjoyable.
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2 RepliesCause there wasnt any thought put into the raid unlike the VOG.
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1 ReplyIt's easier because Crota can be beaten solo. Usually in VoG if a few people go down its a wipe but in Crota you can have 5 people go down and still beat a part