[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zingme yet still more assistance then what the Forum Ninjas have provided so far[/quote] Often wondered if the ninjas are; - picked because of their inherent attributes, or - arrive [i]normal[/i] but undergo serious training, or - it is just the bungie negative influence is overwhelming. Kinda put my money on the last option. Picture if you found yourself working for a company which is not going anywhere, has logged failures since loosing its leadership (Microsoft) ... and you are left to look after a web site which is slotted for closure. Cant be fun ... hope they get paid a LOT. ([i]btw: also wonder how 'pudgie unfit & dressed in brown == ninja'[/i], lol)