{{
`${userDetail.user.displayName}${userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode ? `#${standardizeBungieGlobalCode(userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode)}` : ""}`}}
{{getUserClans()}}
6/16/2008 11:23:55 AM
50
Why did the hunters and grunts quit, then join back to the coveneant?
Rmember the end of halo 2 campaign?
Y'know, playing as the arbiter, killing brutes, jackals, and drones with your team of elites, grunts, and hunters,
Well what happened to that?
Im sure when everyone played seraira 117(holy crap I can't spell) they were like "wtf?"
PS: Dont give me the"bungie wanted a fairer game." -blam!- :)
PSS: I don't read the books.
[Edited on 06.16.2008 3:25 AM PDT]
-
That hunters thing has been bugging me for ages! Like one of the most memorable lines in H2 "The Hunters have come to our aid Arbiter!" He didnt say SOME Hunters have come to aid but next thing you know were fighting Hunters again instead of them charging out there smashing Brutes with us covering there backs... Hunters are soooooo cool!
-
well, I don't think the Elites deployed to many grunts after they separated from the covenant because the actually care for their soldier's lives and new the grunts were no match for the brutes, and as the guy a few posts up said, it would have been easy to define them by having the grunts were the heretic armor, but for the Hunters they could change their armor up a bit and also instead of blue, have green armor (like how the elites phantoms are Green instead of purple)
-
There's an FAQ somewhere that answers this question. I'll try to find it. Edit: [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=13237122][Here it is. Scroll down to find it[/url] [Edited on 06.16.2008 5:36 AM PDT]
-
No the grunts and hunters all died trying to get out of the map on Foundry and then the Prophets went to the Pets-r-Us in Voi and bought some dogs which they pretended were grunts so everyone decided to play along and then the brutes tried to scare the Master Chief by getting pet Pandas and dressing them up as hunters. Then the enviromentalists sent chief to kill Tartarus for being mean to pandas and then they found out about the Intergalactic plot and then everyone killed themselves because it was to complicated.
-
In terms of the storyline, I can explain Grunts. There just aren't too many situations in the game where the Seperatists would deploy weaker units such as Grunts. On Floodgate, it makes sense that 'Rtas Vadum wouldn't let Grunts anywhere near the Flood, if he was cautious to the point of equipping every Elite he sent to ground with Assault armour to protect against Flood spores. That is, he deployed shocktroopers in specific locations, to help the Master Chief retrieve Cortana, and possibly to help evacuate UNSC forces and civilians in the area, while they glassed the rest of Africa to prevent contamination. That said, it makes sense that he would use only Elites, since they are far superior to even the toughest of Grunts, and also because Phantoms can only carry a certain number of passengers. I cannot justify why they would not have deployed Hunters, though; maybe they were kept on the cruisers to protect against any possible Flood boarding party. Gameplay-wise, though, it's probable that Bungie were trying to avoid confusion. Since, it could potentially have been a problem if you had Seperatist Grunts fighting Loyalist Grunts; the same goes for Hunters. However, this problem could have been remedied quite easily; if the Seperatist Grunts wore Heretic armour (which makes sense, seeing as they technically ARE Heretics), it would be easy to spot the difference. It would also have been relatively simple to do something similar for the Hunters. Of course, it makes little difference, considering that you only fight alongside the Seperatists in two out of the nine levels, anyway. Wow: Nerd Boi beat me to it. I guess great minds think alike, or in this case, anyway. [Edited on 06.16.2008 5:15 AM PDT]
-
I was always hoping for a bit of backstory as to why the Grunts and Hunters went back to the Covenant. For instance if they mentioned that the Hunter homeworld was being threatened with orbital bombardment to secure the Hunters allegiance. Again. But alas no story. Perhaps there is a story locked up in the Halo Bible but its all speculation.
-
Or it was actually elites dresssed up as hunters and grunts!!!
-
Maybe the grunts were all eating cake while veryone else died.
-
So far I haven't seen one person say the most obvious thing: The Grunts & Hunters were told Humans were enemies of the Covenant. They were then told Heretics were enemies of the Covenant. When the Elites sided with the Humans, the Elites were seen as Heretics & as enemies of the Covenant. Before, the Grunts joined the battle because it was a civil war & it might help the Grunts get better rights. The Hunters joined the Elites because the Elites had space travel & they were a proud warrior race, but Hunters still belived Humans were enemies. Neither Grunts nor Hunters had any wish to side with the Humans. The Hunters could get space travel from the Prophets so they were all right. The Grunts were frightened of the Brutes. Neither species had respect for Humans, so they went back to the Covenant.
-
Because the Prophets actually wanted you to stop them so they sent some people to help you. Its all a big intergalactic conspiracy to make you worry about unecessary things.
-
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that some grunts and hunters backed the Elites and the rest backed the Covenant. Shame we couldn't see some Hunter Vs Hunter battles.
-
um maby only a few of the hunters helped the eliets
-
also, why didn't the Arbiter get a truly new set of armor? he basically kept his old armor but got it upgraded(its now bronze instead of platinum, it has a flash light, and limitless perfect camo) I mean the Arbiter is a covenant entity, why would he keep that appearance and name? was it because he wanted the prophets to know what it was like to be taken down by their own man?
-
But the Grunts? Oh, wait.... the Brutes probably had more nipples for the Grunts.... :P
-
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GruntSquash Didn't Bungie say that there will be some Elites as enemies and some Grunts and Hunters as allies? what happened to that? Bungie was fed up by many high ptched voices saying "GAME.FINISH.NOW!" And forgot all about the wide assortment of enemies and allies. PS. Im saving this thread! Because this my 1000th post! *shoots Grunt in the head* Yay![/quote] No elites woul not be part of the covenant when they other elites left because they follow the arbiter who to them is an even greated leader then the prophets and also because they have a honour code i think when one brother leaves the rest leaves if he tells what is true and also the brutes probably just killed all the elites who didnt flee because some elites would try to spread corruption amount the covenant just like the Heretic in the arbiter level in halo 2
-
Didn't Bungie say that there will be some Elites as enemies and some Grunts and Hunters as allies? what happened to that? Bungie was fed up by many high ptched voices saying "GAME.FINISH.NOW!" And forgot all about the wide assortment of enemies and allies. PS. Im saving this thread! Because this my 1000th post! *shoots Grunt in the head* Yay!
-
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] snow likes runin the grunts commited mass suicide and the hunters do not yet have a ground vehical that they can travel fast and light on so during the invasion of earth when the hunters were spending their summer in florida they had to walk all the way to canada and attempt to cross that old land bridge. when they finally made it to asia there were few survivors and the journy from asia to africa was a long and hard one where many brave hunters fell pray to super radioactive tigers. so yea that explains it[/quote] that can't be right, remember what happened to Florida, poor Florida..
-
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] snow likes runin the grunts commited mass suicide and the hunters do not yet have a ground vehical that they can travel fast and light on so during the invasion of earth when the hunters were spending their summer in florida they had to walk all the way to canada and attempt to cross that old land bridge. when they finally made it to asia there were few survivors and the journy from asia to africa was a long and hard one where many brave hunters fell pray to super radioactive tigers. so yea that explains it[/quote] Florida eh? No wonder i couldnt book a reservation in a hotel for a holiday damn..
-
the grunts commited mass suicide and the hunters do not yet have a ground vehical that they can travel fast and light on so during the invasion of earth when the hunters were spending their summer in florida they had to walk all the way to canada and attempt to cross that old land bridge. when they finally made it to asia there were few survivors and the journy from asia to africa was a long and hard one where many brave hunters fell pray to super radioactive tigers. so yea that explains it
-
The way I see it, if there were any grunt rebels, they'd be dead by now. I mean geez they're grunts for God's sake! What the hell are they gonna do?
-
H0ly sh17 thA7 p3l1can gUy muSt B fr0m bUngi3! :O
-
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mrister n00b We need a full pledged halo nerd to answer this question.[/quote] lol did someone call my name? i'll give it a shot. the grunts are cowards. they fought under whoever they were under at the end of halo 2. there were some under the elites in halo 2 because the elites picked them up on the way. you never start with grunt allies after the civil war starts, they just run into you and fight for you. as for why you dont see any fighting with you in halo 3-the only times where you fight with elites is in floodgate and a bit on the covenant. on floodgate it is an extraction team sent to assits you get to the crashed ship, and in the covenant they were assisting in taking the tower. both these times are high-risk operations requiring crack troops. with the exception of the spec-ops grunts...well a good soldier they are not. as for the hunters-they mostly remain a mystery. it is likely however that they are a fairly rare species, given their limited deployment despite being incredibly powerful. as such the elites and humans may only have a few hunter allies, and again had no use for them in the events of halo 3, given they are essentially walking tanks, and the only times when the elites deploy ground forces is in small-scale special ops missions where the hunters lack of mobility would be a liability. why some were with the brutes-hunters do not follow the covenant religion, and are remarked to only respect the elites due to the actions of a former arbiter during the taming of the hunters. however it is likely that in the years since then some may have taken up the religion, or formed associations with brutes, and so decided to stay with them. of course this is all speculation EDIT: after reading guscon's post(the pelican guy) i agree with what he said about the hunters too as another reason for their split loyalties [Edited on 06.16.2008 4:13 AM PDT]
-
i think i read this somewhere, but when the elites seperated, they brought with themselves a group of seperatist hunters and grunts. They were retarded enough to die to brutes and drones, so the remaining hunters and grunts who stayed with the prophets are the ones you see now
-
I'm probably part of a small minority that played Halo3 before Halo2. I recently finished the campaign on Halo2. I remember that part, fighting your way to the scarab, At one point I had three Elites, two or three grunts and TWO freaking hunters with me. We were MURDING the brutes. Such a rush to just sit back and watch the Hunters go BESERK. Good times indeed. ~ Peeps
-
Also the grunts probably grew up and got educated in the way of the Great journey and were told lies about the covenant and also in the covenant when truth(i think) says i am the voice of the covenant so whatever he says the othe covenant will probably listern to him
-
From Contact Harvest The Hunters are made from tiny worms and these worms normally eat throught forerunner objects and the elites probably did have any and also in the forerunner ship at the end of halo 2 inside there are thousands of colonies of not yet formed hunters who are being put into the suits so i think that the hunters are being educated and also for the grunts probably the deacons (contact harvest the spiritual grunts of their religious minestary) probably urged them to stay with the covenant to follow this Great journey, also in ghosts of Onyx where you see the covenant engineers fixing Admirals Ackbars(cant remember name) Nova fusion bomb the interested grunt stupidle presses it and most of the ships were destroyed by the nova bombs explosions. The ships were the surviving elites ships who fled and joined up at some location. So most of the grunts and hunters would of have probably dies. For the jackals the covenant not the elites could probably make the shields and also the Jackals dont like grunts so if a group of grunts joined the elites then some jackals wouldnt, its all about motives and how much each species knows and what they believe in my opinon.
