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The broken weapon bounty for Thorn

This is probably being posted on multiple topics to ensure it gets the right one. Recently I got the exotic weapon bounty for Thorn. Seeing that I am once again forced into a gameplay I do not enjoy nor am all that good at, I do it for sake of getting a good gun for my characters to use. Though I find that the crucible part of this bounty is broken. The fact that death in crucible removes 2 points and kills with ONLY void damage earns 5 points and it takes 500 points to finish it. This is broken on so many levels it makes me wonder if Bungie has lost its ability to know how to design and program games. First of all I'm forced to play a gameplay I do not like nor am all that good at. Bungie has always shown an inability to understand its players since Halo 3. Not everyone likes CoD crappy style of multiplayer. Some do, they enjoy it so much they remain unemployed to play it 24/7. But many do not enjoy it and many of them are really not all that good at it. Thus they have KDRs below 1.0 and for every kill is least 3 deaths. Meaning they never gain any points towards finishing that part of the bounty. Secondly the fact that even after finally earning points in one match, the next one can go really bad and they can, and very well will, lose ALL progress made. The fact it doesn't set in stone progress made between matches allowing progress to stick makes it so that it becomes impossible for many to finish it. Leaving them to have no choice but to abandon and never attempt the bounty again. Thirdly it is stated that is must be done via void damage only. The hunters have no void damage ability and titans only have void damage grenades and therefor it's made so only Warlocks have best chance at getting this. Otherwise a player must track down void damage weapons which are primarily special and heavy weapons and not always can get the ammo or a decent weapon to use in the first place. I so far know of just one primary weapon that does void damage and that has to be a random drop from the Vault of Glass. There may be more out there but very difficult to get. So even just void damage kills let alone 500 points worth with only 5 points per kill is already making this a challenge, but breaking it and making it unable to be completed by allowing deaths to essentially reset any and all progress made is just plainly dumb. More than half of the player base left in Destiny will be unable to obtain this weapon. Even those who are decent at the crucible can lose all progress from a string of bad luck matches. This bounty needs to have at least two things done to fix it, the first being the biggest point of all, removing the points lost due to deaths, and the second being to remove the void damage only. I would suggest that instead of void damage, say it must be done via hand cannons instead or something along those lines. Allow EVERY player to be able to complete this bounty, otherwise why have it or the weapon Thorn in the game in the first place? And to those who will tell me stop being a baby and play crucible, I do. Despite my dislike and avoidance of it, I will put up with playing it inorder to get the weapon and complete the bounty, but this one is quite impossible to finish for many in its current setup.
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  • If you are on Xbox1 hit me up. We will get you Thorn. PVP sucks in this game...if I wanted to play with a bunch of corner camping retards I would play COD.

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  • TL;DR past the first few sentences... sorry bro. Ultimately, difficult does not equal broken. It's a challenge. With that said, I do agree that it is slightly biased towards the deaths. I feel if void weapons are the only way I can earn points, then deaths by void should be the only way I should lose them. That's my opinion of course. Regardless I've completed this bounty several times. It's not THAT difficult.

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  • Wall of text. Ok. The void part isn't that exhausting, it looks worse than it actually is.

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  • Yes this is a very time consuming bounty. But the reward is well worth the effort. The Thorn is a beastly gun.

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  • Luckily, crucible has damage normalization. So, if you can find a decent impact and rate of fire weapon (even a green quality), you can do this bounty. Though I am a warlock, the majority of my kills came from bullets (not grenades or melee). It's tough, but fair. You play well and you go the weapon. You play poorly and you don't. I used to dislike this bounty a lot. It stayed on my character for a while. However, after I just went for it and decided o finish it, it only took a couple of hours.

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  • You're crying and I'm a casual and had to do this bounty with a sub-par fusion rifle and sniper rifle with NO void primary before level 30. This must be a joke.

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  • +5 tears get

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  • Only choose this on Warlock. VOG til Atheons Epilogue is obtained. Get void fusion or shotty. Void heavy. Camp outter flags on Control. 2-3 hrs for those of us not good at it ;)

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  • I did the entire pvp part of this bounty in less than 3 hours, with a rare void fusion rifle that i got in my 3rd match in. I used my titan with the void subclass, but really it wasnt that big of a help really. I got a few grenade kills but ive done it before with no void subclass so no biggie if you dont have it. My suggestions to you are... 1 get yourself a void damage fusion rifle, shotgun, or sniper and play very conservatively. Dont get caught up trying to win the match or capture objectives. Your only goal is to get kills 2 get yourself a void heavy and camp those heavy drop spawns. I used truth and it was awesome. But any void heavy should suffice 3 dont give up. Its possible to go negative and still come out positive for the bounty. 5 points a kill 3 for assist -2 for death. Just keep plugging away and next thing you know youll be lookin for help with xyor

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  • Not the best at pvp, but I genuinely really enjoyed this bounty. By to end I got pretty good with a fusion rifle.

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    • Edited by Betadox: 1/13/2015 9:15:37 PM
      Hunter. Took me two hours, all I used was a legendary sniper and truth. Stop whining and just bite the bullet and grind it. As long as you're not a bad kid and going negative every game it's easy. If you're doing that bad you don't deserve the Thorn in the first place.

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    • I did this bounty faster with my hunter than with the Warlock. A good void raid weapon is the key lol.

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    • agree bump

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    • Did it as a hunter with The Comedian and Eptitaph. Its not broken. Its just difficult. And it was probably done like that on purpose. All of the exotic bounties have their own requirements that favor a certain play style. As long as you go even a little positive (not even actually, you could go a little negative) every game youll get it eventually.

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    • Is it hard? - depends on your skill level but lets go with yes. Does that make it broken? - considering it has been completed by countless guardians, many of whom do not do a lot of pvp I'd go with no. Suck it up, put your big-boy pants on and go in with a group of your friends so you spend less time re-spawning and more time being on the winning side of a firefight. Tip - farm VoG for Aetheon's Epilogue if you do not already have it.. a void primary makes this pretty easy imo.

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    • Just grab void fusion and a void heavy and grind. Once you get the timing down using the fusion rifle it'll go quick. I used a warlock with void damage to do this, but most of my void kills came from my fusion rifle.

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    • It's not bad if you just dive in. I'm a hunter and did it without the grenade benefit. But even with that you still need normal kills. Just have at it and don't think about it. You will get it eventually don't let it frustrate you.

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    • Stop making an elaborate thread to cover up the fact that you suck. We thorn owners all had to deal with it. If you want it to be easier farm for an atheon epilogue

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      • Stop. It's not broken. I RARELY play PVP and only do it for bounties or boredom once in a blue moon, but I did this with a hunter. I do believe they should have two options for exotic bounties: Pick either the PVP or PVE option. Since that isn't there, you have to man up and just do it. When I really focused on doing it, it was actually easy. Get a sniper, a fusion rifle/shotgun (whichever you prefer), and a heavy with Void. Not hard to do. Lastly, get Aethons Epilogue which is a void primary AR. The AR for this blows, but it works well if you attack with a teammate and try to get the last blow as the firerate of the AE is high. Snipe on maps you can snipe on and fusion rifle/shotgun on the tighter maps. Be patient and just do it. Thorn is worth it.

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      • Edited by M3hnahm3hnah: 1/13/2015 8:43:23 PM
        I would reply that it was the most difficult bounty for me, as I'm a perpetual scrub in pve (EDIT : PVP). I might, maybe, eventually be getting to an even 1.0. Sometime around 2016. But it isn't the longest bounty (25 strikes anyone?), and it is not unique in requiring crucible play to finish. Plus, all of the weapon bounties require some pve play - forcing the ones who do not wish to play PVE to do so. That's surely not on accident. It's annoying, you will rage and whine and, eventually, get better. Looking back at it later, the achievement will have added to your total enjoyment. That being said, I have dropped every time it came up again.

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      • Didn't read that, but I'm sure it has something to do the the 500 void damage like every other post like this. Either do the bounty or drop it, simple. No one is forcing you to do shit.

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      • I'm with you here, though I'm sure I'm probably with the minority as well. I don't ever play PvP and when I do I tend to get my ass kicked. So being forced to do a mode I suck at with one particular type of weapon damage definitely has me concerned. I don't know if I'll ever complete this bounty since, when I DO play this game, I'm more excited about doing strikes and bounties than playing PvP. So the amount of time it'd take for a non-PvP player to rack up the required kills will likely also kill my enjoyment of the game.. maybe to the point of making me not want to play it anymore.

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      • Void walker with the epilogue a void fusion and void launcher, I had a breeze. The issue comes with balancing. How do you make it difficult for they who enjoy crucible but still possible for they who do not?

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      • I don't enjoy crucible either but its not that hard. Play conservatively, find a buddy and team up. Hang back and use a void snipe or void fusion if you run and gun. I've cleared the bounty 3 times. twice before the upgrade now once after and i have that bounty again, so i'll prob do it 2 more times.

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      • 1. Get void shot gun/fusion rifle 2. Go to town

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      • Listen, I made a post concerning this bounty as well. It sucks and it's hard, but it is not broken. It's meant to be difficult and hard. I hate trying to get this bounty and honestly wouldn't play PvP if not for this bounty. I was sucking hardcore for a couple hours until I found my niche. Control because people focus on an objective and it's easier to camp spots for kills Don't use void as a primary. Save this for TLW, Suros or Mythoclast. Your primary is your "oh shit I'm going to die" gun. Kills with these guns don't count towards your bounty, but at least you didn't die. If you don't die you don't lose points on the bounty. Use a void fusion and void sniper combo. Fusion for control point camping up close and sniper for camping the points from a distance. Even a shit green void fusion are 1 shot kills. Try and find one with a quicker charge rate. Heavy void. ..be it rocket or LMG. Get those heavy ammo drops if you can do it safely. Doing that put me 76 points up in three matches yesterday. I was like you and thought it couldn't be done. It can be. I'm probably as bad at PvP as you can get and this method is working for me.

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