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6/5/2008 9:43:07 AM
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How Not To Get Cheated/Lagged Out. (Step by Step Guide.)
First off I have put a lot of effort into this post, both with instructions, testing, and finally writing. Please keep this post alive so as many people can see it to save themselves from being lagged out or (Ping Flooded out).
Secondly,this hasn't been tested on a MAC, and this usually only works if you use a router while playing online. Most modems already block ICMP (Ping) or cannot be modified to block them.(Please try even if you use a modem for X-box 360 it still might work!)
Thirdly, It's time to stop cheaters!
The Guide Starts Here: (forgive me if I am being to technical, Message me if you are stuck I WILL answer all messages received!)
Open your "Network Connections" then click on your connected line/ then go to support after it opens and you should see a bunch of numbers including your IP, which you do not need. All you need is the "default Gateway" number.
[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v330/blackdrug/?action=view¤t=step1.jpg]Step One[/url]
Open your browser (FireFox or Internet Explorer, etc.) and enter the "Default Gateway" number into the address bar, it should take you to a login screen (if your router has a password & username, which it should, be safe!) After logging in, you are at your Routers Settings! From there access Security/Access Restrictions/ or whatever it may be called. (Linksys calls it Access Restrictions) Then Find where you can block PING and or ICMP, block/disable both and save settings! YOU ARE NOW SAFE! Until cheaters find another way. But I highly dout they will.
[url=http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v330/blackdrug/?action=view¤t=step2.jpg]Step Two[/url]
PS I have Pictures for both steps, (Retrieving "default Gateway" number and then accessing Routers setting) (Those are linked)
Bungie, this last part is for you, I'm in Network Security (2nd Year College) and you might want to Sticky this post. Try it; it works.
LONG LIVE LEGIT GAMING, AND LONG LIVE HALO 3!!!!!
[EDIT]: Adding some Info, If you can Block all PING do it. ICMP should stop lagging out, but if you can block all 3 types of PING do it, UDP TCP are the other forms of PING. Some routers have a mode called "stealth mode" if you have this TURN IT ON!!! :)
[EDIT] I've added how to retrieve your IP on Vista, a great message was sent to me from an awesome player.
"[i] I am running Vista and had to use my networking know how in modifying your steps. To get to where you said in Vista, a person has to perform the following steps: Start, Control Panel, Network and Sharing, then Network Connections. The problem with Vista is that once you get there, there is no support screen to show the IP, Default Gateway, etc as there is in XP. So what I had to do is actually go into my router and find the information. I have a Linksys Router, so I know that the IP address to take me to the admin password prompt is 192.168.1.1, which should be standard for all Linksys routers. Once I was in the router access page I clicked the "status" tab on the upper right corner and that showed me the default gateway...which is bascially a moot point if we're already in the router access page.
What I would suggest is figure out what the other router company standard IP address is to access the user name and password for their model to perform the amazing information you already gave. I would hate to see someone that wants to play legit games getting screwed because they are running Vista and can't figure out how to protect themselves.
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[Edited on 06.05.2008 4:21 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DVDA 02 As long as we are on the topic of IP flooding. On average, out of say 100 games to make the math easy, how many games out of 100 do you feel like you get cheated by some form of flooding- if any at all?[/quote] Not many, maybe 5 out of 100? But as far as I'm concerned that's 5 too many.
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As long as we are on the topic of IP flooding. On average, out of say 100 games to make the math easy, how many games out of 100 do you feel like you get cheated by some form of flooding- if any at all?
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Great idea. It should help.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OhioCat110 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DVDA 02 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Demache [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DVDA 02 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] killfrenzie93 Does this lower performance of the internet on your network?[/quote] My question exactly.[/quote]Probably not, it might actually [i]improve[/i]. But if you use file sharing programs like Bittorrent or Limewire it could affect performance on those. And if you host a website at home people might not be able to connect to it. [/quote] Great, I use the internet only to check my email, the news, basic web-surfing and to play Halo, etc. Will this affect my ability to host Halo games sir?[/quote] Blocking Ping and ICMP packets shouldn't have an effect on your NAT or hosting. They're generally used for troubleshooting or sending network instructions to devices, and don't have a real use in making connections or gaming. The settings can make your network more secure and perform better as well as being less susceptible to installers, spyware, etc. It's hard to say what the exact effect might be since there are so many possible combinations of software and devices though. If you make changes to your network, it's generally a good idea to change only one thing at a time and then test to make sure everything still works. Also write everything you do down so you can undo it if it causes problems. [/quote] Wow! Thank you very much. That was very detailed and appreciated.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DVDA 02 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Demache [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DVDA 02 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] killfrenzie93 Does this lower performance of the internet on your network?[/quote] My question exactly.[/quote]Probably not, it might actually [i]improve[/i]. But if you use file sharing programs like Bittorrent or Limewire it could affect performance on those. And if you host a website at home people might not be able to connect to it. [/quote] Great, I use the internet only to check my email, the news, basic web-surfing and to play Halo, etc. Will this affect my ability to host Halo games sir?[/quote] Blocking Ping and ICMP packets shouldn't have an effect on your NAT or hosting. They're generally used for troubleshooting or sending network instructions to devices, and don't have a real use in making connections or gaming. The settings can make your network more secure and perform better as well as being less susceptible to installers, spyware, etc. It's hard to say what the exact effect might be since there are so many possible combinations of software and devices though. If you make changes to your network, it's generally a good idea to change only one thing at a time and then test to make sure everything still works. Also write everything you do down so you can undo it if it causes problems. [Edited on 06.05.2008 8:44 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Demache [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DVDA 02 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] killfrenzie93 Does this lower performance of the internet on your network?[/quote] My question exactly.[/quote]Probably not, it might actually [i]improve[/i]. But if you use file sharing programs like Bittorrent or Limewire it could affect performance on those. And if you host a website at home people might not be able to connect to it. [/quote] Alright, i did i blocked ping. I don't think i have been attacked(on purpose, but thats another story.), and if this works, i shouldn't ever!
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Finally, our saviour has come. Huzzah!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Demache [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DVDA 02 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] killfrenzie93 Does this lower performance of the internet on your network?[/quote] My question exactly.[/quote]Probably not, it might actually [i]improve[/i]. But if you use file sharing programs like Bittorrent or Limewire it could affect performance on those. And if you host a website at home people might not be able to connect to it. [/quote] Great, I use the internet only to check my email, the news, basic web-surfing and to play Halo, etc. Will this affect my ability to host Halo games sir?
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I'm in MN too, Twin Cities. Where are you and what college are you attending? I graduated from the main U of MN campus in 2000 with a BS in Bio and a minor in Chem. Also, how often do you feel like you get cheated in an average of a hundred games by the methods that your tutorial would possibly prevent? 1%, 10%, 35%? I do not know a lot about computers, so whenever there is a questionable game as far as the way 'mysterious' episodes of lag seem to benefit the opposing team I am always left pondering, was it just a random gltch in the Matrix or was there more naferious intent involved? [Edited on 06.05.2008 8:37 AM PDT]
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Great post, this happened to me TWICE yesterday. I've played 2500+ games and haven't been cheated until yesterday. This thread needs to be stickied AND posted on the front page of bungie.net
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DVDA 02 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] killfrenzie93 Does this lower performance of the internet on your network?[/quote] My question exactly.[/quote]Probably not, it might actually [i]improve[/i]. But if you use file sharing programs like Bittorrent or Limewire it could affect performance on those. And if you host a website at home people might not be able to connect to it.
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Amazing, I will do this, and I am posting this to keep the thread alive.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] killfrenzie93 Does this lower performance of the internet on your network?[/quote] My question exactly.
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Does this lower performance of the internet on your network?
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Booting is starting to become a more common occurance. I think Bungie's Banhammer needs to be a little more hard hitting on these nerds. I don't want to call out any names (lazy swat boy, s7 starscream) but these idiots need to be put to rest.
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Great find man, I hope this improves Halo 3 for many.
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Thanks for making me understand this. Someone lagged me out of the game before and I hadn't a clue what happened. Nice work
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Great post, I am going to give it a try tonight as well.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Little Bud How does this relate to Halo in anyway. This should be in either the Flood Forums or Underground.[/quote] DUH to stop [U]Halo[/U] cheaters [Edited on 06.05.2008 8:10 AM PDT]
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It works.
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I'll give this a shot and tell my friends because 4 guys from my BTB team were flooded last night.
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Great work. This thread should be stickied, but I doubt the ninjas will sticky it.
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"Block WAN requests" is sometimes what the option is called. This is foreign language to some people and that is the one you want to enable. I just wanna help everyone possible. God bless you for posting this.
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This is great stuff! Somebody who is trying to fix the problem instead of just complaining about it, keep this thread going people!
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Youre the man, thank you
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Nice work, I'm going to try it now. Easy too.
