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5/30/2008 12:28:46 PM
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What if the Covenant accepted the Humans as Reclaimers?
What do you guys think would happen if the Prophets had accepted the fact that the Human race were Reclaimers in the eyes of the Forerunners instead of covering it up to ensure their own power?
My theory: Humans would have advanced in terms of space travel and technology for a certain amount of years, till the Halos were discovered in which they would try to stop it, because of what they do. The Prophets would have started a war, and the Great Schism would have been Humans, Elites, some Grunts, some Jackals, some Engineers, some Hunters vs. Prophets Brutes, remaining Grunts, remaining Jackals, remaining Hunters, and the Drones.
The Human side would have had more of an advantage due to their advancement prior to this 'new' Schism.
Curious to know what you guys think.
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You notice the irony of the names? Truth is lying, Mercy is unmerciful by doing this and dooming the Covenet, and Regret is most likely not Regretful.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] everywhere116 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Murcielago00 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] everywhere116 What I think would happen: Humans join the covenant Humans keep some technology, but Covenant technology becomes standard. Humans are in a position above Brutes but below Elites. As soon as a ring is found, the local monitor, being thier naive selves, tells the Brutes halo's true purpose. Brutes, jackels, and some Grunts form the Covenant Seperatists, because of both this knowlegde and long time resentment of humans being above them. Prophets, Elites, Hunters, Humans and some Grunts form the loyalist faction. Flood gets released and infects all Prophets and Elites. Humans then realize thier true purpose, and fire the rings, not because they were going to start the great journey, but because the flood were spreading. Installation 04 is destroyed at this point, so Earth and Dosiac is spared. Humans and Brutes make peace, life goes on. Marathon series begins.[/quote] I like, I like. This is a sound theory as well. Humans and Big Foot living in harmony :) But wouldn't the Brutes with their massive size and ferocity one day view humans as sub-standard? [/quote] If they did, they wouldn't last. Technology would be identical, if not being in the Humans advantage, and superior human intellect would eventuallty defeat a Brute uprising.[/quote] Agreed.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Murcielago00 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] everywhere116 What I think would happen: Humans join the covenant Humans keep some technology, but Covenant technology becomes standard. Humans are in a position above Brutes but below Elites. As soon as a ring is found, the local monitor, being thier naive selves, tells the Brutes halo's true purpose. Brutes, jackels, and some Grunts form the Covenant Seperatists, because of both this knowlegde and long time resentment of humans being above them. Prophets, Elites, Hunters, Humans and some Grunts form the loyalist faction. Flood gets released and infects all Prophets and Elites. Humans then realize thier true purpose, and fire the rings, not because they were going to start the great journey, but because the flood were spreading. Installation 04 is destroyed at this point, so Earth and Dosiac is spared. Humans and Brutes make peace, life goes on. Marathon series begins.[/quote] I like, I like. This is a sound theory as well. Humans and Big Foot living in harmony :) But wouldn't the Brutes with their massive size and ferocity one day view humans as sub-standard? [/quote] If they did, they wouldn't last. Technology would be identical, if not being in the Humans advantage, and superior human intellect would eventuallty defeat a Brute uprising.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] everywhere116 What I think would happen: Humans join the covenant Humans keep some technology, but Covenant technology becomes standard. Humans are in a position above Brutes but below Elites. As soon as a ring is found, the local monitor, being thier naive selves, tells the Brutes halo's true purpose. Brutes, jackels, and some Grunts form the Covenant Seperatists, because of both this knowlegde and long time resentment of humans being above them. Prophets, Elites, Hunters, Humans and some Grunts form the loyalist faction. Flood gets released and infects all Prophets and Elites. Humans then realize thier true purpose, and fire the rings, not because they were going to start the great journey, but because the flood were spreading. Installation 04 is destroyed at this point, so Earth and Dosiac is spared. Humans and Brutes make peace, life goes on. Marathon series begins.[/quote] I like, I like. This is a sound theory as well. Humans and Big Foot living in harmony :) But wouldn't the Brutes with their massive size and ferocity one day view humans as sub-standard?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FleetAdmiralBob .... seeing as how the Elites are now in charge, they probably WILL be accepted as Reclaimers, 'cept that, y'know, they won't try to find the Halos anymore...[/quote] True. The Elites call you 'reclaimer' during the level The Covenant. Just approach an Elite ally and at times he will refer to you as 'reclaimer'. If the Prophets had originally accepted the Humans into the Covenant, they Prophets would have been usurped altogether and there would be no place for them within the covenant. That's why the Prophets waged war against humans in the first place. I'm guessing the Elites and humans would have worked together rather closely, with the other races in a similar position of power as they were.
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What I think would happen: Humans join the covenant Humans keep some technology, but Covenant technology becomes standard. Humans are in a position above Brutes but below Elites. As soon as a ring is found, the local monitor, being thier naive selves, tells the Brutes halo's true purpose. Brutes, jackels, and some Grunts form the Covenant Seperatists, because of both this knowlegde and long time resentment of humans being above them. Prophets, Elites, Hunters, Humans and some Grunts form the loyalist faction. Flood gets released and infects all Prophets and Elites. Humans then realize thier true purpose, and fire the rings, not because they were going to start the great journey, but because the flood were spreading. Installation 04 is destroyed at this point, so Earth and Dosiac is spared. Humans and Brutes make peace, life goes on. Marathon series begins.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dax7 Why didn't the hunters join the elites other, it says that they respect the elites. And the grunts probably just chose the brutes because they knew if they didn't the brutes would own them lol.[/quote] They did, you just don't see them very much as the Elites are glory hounds...... really, why do you think that you fought so few hunters in Halo 3? BECAUSE THEY WERE MOSTLY ON YOUR SIDE!
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Why didn't the hunters join the elites other, it says that they respect the elites. And the grunts probably just chose the brutes because they knew if they didn't the brutes would own them lol.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] krayt147 Dude that would never happen because the prophets dont even know that the humans are children of the fore runners, if they had images of the fore runners(which show that they are human) only then would they share their technological advancement and embrace humanity, but i doubt that....because the prophets are greedy power hungry bastards, they look at the humans as inferior and prehistoric vermin, so even with knowledge of humanity's direct descendence from the fore-runners, they would never NEVER share their empire....so ummm the war was inevitable[/quote] I'm going to say that you never read [u]Contact Harvest[/u]. If you have then correct me. [b]SPOILERS[/b] but in that book the Luminary, which the Covenant use to detect Forerunner objects indicated that on the planet Harvest were many Forerunner objects with the title "Reclamation" or "Reclaim" (can't remember right now). Well on High Charity whilst in the Forerunner Dreadnaught, the 3 Prophets were discussing the vast amount of objects, the ship's AI powered up and told them they he had listened to them for ages misinterpret the glyphs. The glyphs said 'reclaimer' (side note: the ship's AI is none other than a piece of Mendicant Bias). Upon this the AI tries to power the ship and leave to help assist the Humans/Reclaimers. The Hunter worms end up powering him down and the Prophet Truth, chooses to hide this from the Covenat to protect its structure and secure his power. He ends up choosing the name Truth to remind himself of all the lies he has to tell, in order to achieve his goals. [b]/SPOILERS[/b] That's why Truth out of all 3 Prophets is so against the Humans, because this discovery would ruin what he sought after.
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I do believe that if the humans were accepted into the Covenant, and the true "secret" of the rings revealed, there would be all-out rebellion. A Grunt Rebellion is one thing, a Sangheili revolt would be shattering, but the [i]entire[/i] Covenant in an uproar? The entire hegemony would implode with the force of a collapsing sun. But this is just one possibility. There would probably be other scenarios as well.
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.... seeing as how the Elites are now in charge, they probably WILL be accepted as Reclaimers, 'cept that, y'know, they won't try to find the Halos anymore...
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Dude that would never happen because the prophets dont even know that the humans are children of the fore runners, if they had images of the fore runners(which show that they are human) only then would they share their technological advancement and embrace humanity, but i doubt that....because the prophets are greedy power hungry bastards, they look at the humans as inferior and prehistoric vermin, so even with knowledge of humanity's direct descendence from the fore-runners, they would never NEVER share their empire....so ummm the war was inevitable
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L Persona If the Humans did join the Covenant, wouldn't they have set the rings off with the Prophets? After all, Masterchief found out at the last second in Halo: CE about what the rings do. [/quote] yep. humans join covenant. covenant finds rings reclaimer puts index into console. byebye galaxy remember that the beginings of the schism only began after the ring was destroyed and the heritic leader began talking too 343. if there is no war then there is no ring destroyed. and so we never learn what the rings truely do. unless of course 343 lets it slip when we decide to fire the rings for no apparent reason.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L Persona If the Humans did join the Covenant, wouldn't they have set the rings off with the Prophets? After all, Masterchief found out at the last second in Halo: CE about what the rings do. [/quote] Good point. But I think Cortana told him, and I believe even if they had joined that Cortana would still be with Chief and , in this new theory, she may tell him at the last plausible second as well. If not....the onto the Great Journey.
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If the Humans did join the Covenant, wouldn't they have set the rings off with the Prophets? After all, Masterchief found out at the last second in Halo: CE about what the rings do.
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I think it's a plausible theory. I read all the novels, btw.
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Anybody else?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] StateOfTheArtX Your theory sounds plausible, I didn't really follow the storyline too much, it was way too complicated for a FPS.[/quote] Well I don't know if you have read the books, but the books expand on it and give it more depth. The reason I ask is cause the information I base this upon is from the [u]Contact Harvest[/u] book. I've just always wondered [b]IF[/b] there was no cover-up as to the Humans=Reclaimers, what the Halo universe would be like.
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Your theory sounds plausible, I didn't really follow the storyline too much, it was way too complicated for a FPS.
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Like in the leaked script?
