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Edited by BoxMaker: 12/29/2014 11:45:29 AM
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[quote]"This is how a [b]team[/b] runs the raid!" *doesnt help teammates with any mechanic other than gjallarhorning Atheon*[/quote] Corrective measure is pretty much the best thing you can use on oracles. Sniping the oracles with a low fire rate isn't that much better and no one uses Gjallarhorn rockets or rocket in general against oracles. And no, it's best to help out with the Minotaur because it glitch regens health. I do raids with friends that can do every part flawlessly but the glitches still get us sometimes. And you still haven't justified why you never used your golden gun. Times vengeance makes you regen it immediately; really see no point in saving it. And helping out your team makes a raid team, not a group of people doing all the work separately on their own and you getting carried through it.
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  • Edited by MAD X H0USE: 12/29/2014 5:52:39 PM
    Using Golden Gun on Atheon is a waste. Legendary weapons still deal more damage with Time's Vengeance. Golden Gun could use a precision damage multiplier, then MAYBE it would be effective for Atheon. EDIT: For the sake of humility, I leave my original reply so that I may be reminded next time to re-read the post before making a stupid comment. Sorry guys, my bad. Carry on.

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  • GG on supplicants is what i think he meant, not atheon

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  • He's talking about on the Oracles or Supplicants, dude...

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  • Edited by HiddenDeath: 12/29/2014 1:44:26 PM
    You dont need rockets for Oracles... With less than one pocket of the VoC is enough for kill one orcale... If the Shieldbringer is good, he doesnt need help... the glicht is not to dangerous... They work as a team... They just know that nobody need help. Edit: now?

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  • This is so dumb. Can a relic holder solo all three in Venus by himself? Yes. Should he and risk the chance of a wipe? No.

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  • But if you are sure you will not have problems to kill the enemies, what is point for complicate with that?

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  • Preventing unnecessary wipes by doing something that literally takes two seconds to do and will not hamper your current task? You can fire off a grenade and a few precision shots/golden gun before any relics spawn.

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  • What the hell are you saying?

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  • You can't use glitches as an excuse to have to help people... I have run Atheon dozens of times without problem and so have my teammates. They're all capable of using the shield solo especially when you're level 31 (inc myself). I didn't use my golden gun because I had just switched off my warlock and this was our first run and I didn't even think about using my super. Usually we do the oracles with just primary between two of us he just happened to have a machine gun on so he used that. Also on the first teleport 2 extra people go in to shoot oracles whilst I kill supplicants outside... Not shooting oracles with heavy/special ammo (which I didn't have at that point anyway) doesn't mean I'm not a team player... It means I know what my team is capable of and that Atheon is extremely easy to do...

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  • Are you seriously this defiant in not helping your [b]teammates[/b] that you bring up excuses? It's not hard to put a couple bullets down the stairs. And that warlock to Hunter excuse is the worst excuse I've heard in a long time. I have a warlock, Hunter, and titan and have done the raid countless times and never have I ever said to myself "I'm... I'm not a warlock... what should I do?...". And no, using a shitty scout rifle to conserve ammo is not the best thing to do on oracles. Since oracles instantly wipe your team, you should be using at least something decent, at least for the love of God, an auto rifle. Scout rifles are only good when you can get consistent crit shots and oracles... don't have a crit spot. So instead of using a slow weak peashooter to conserve, use something useful. And I don't even know what the hell your team is doing if 5 of you guys are in the portal and 1 person left outside to deal with all the supplicants. [b]Well anyways, you pretty much proved my point. You rely on you teammates to do everything and you choose to not help. Carried much?[/b]

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  • Well they took down Atheon pretty easily so your arguments are invalid.

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  • Yeah but try what they did at level 27 and they would have got trashed by atheon... I'm not being a dick to this guy but most points are valid, he didn't help the team.

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  • No level 27 is going to do hard

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  • Yes. I do it.

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  • Then 29/30 w.e man you didn't get the point at all

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  • You're going to blame me for not getting the point when you said the wrong thing? Okay.

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  • The point is they might as well 5 maned it he did nothing... Now do u get it?

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  • He did nothing? I'm pretty sure he took down the most of Atheon's health with his ghorn. Nice try though.

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  • I dont care what he was shooting atheon with. Killing atheon is only part. Clearing supplicant and oracles is way more important to the team. Miss an Oracle wipe, miss supplicant that kills teamates(possible) wipe. Not shooting atheon dosent directly cause a wipe.

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  • I killed more oracles than anyone? Which video were you watching?

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  • You can do it... We have done it a couple of times but you will be useless. We took a 27 through Crota the other day and they couldn't shoot anything cos it was all immune lol.

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  • Mothertruckeye or whoever you are, it's simple you're an aśśhole

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  • Edited by BoxMaker: 12/29/2014 12:38:02 PM
    "Or whoever you are" My gt is right there. [spoiler]Kill yourself.[/spoiler] I may be an asshole but this guy is an idiot who defiantly wants to stay an idiot.

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  • I have however jumped into middle to place a bubble and then proceeded to fist of havoc down the hole lol...

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  • Something similar happened to me when we started the Atheon fight. I usually run sunsinger to spam grenades and self res just in case I die at gatekeepers but at Atheon, I always use void walker to nova bomb the adds. As soon as we started atheon's part, I switched over to void walker, got teleported, and when I double jumped to go to the middle platform, I blinked right past it and fell down. My voidwalker subclass was still in my PvP set up and I totally forgot to change it.

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