Never thought I would say this but holy cow! It is way too easy to get into the raids now and the under-levelled weapons/lack of experience can be so frustrating.
Edit: I am talking about level 30 raids here. I would never talk this way about normal mode.
Edit 2: I am trying to be as un-elitist as possible, I will usually solo the nightfall each week and put a post up offering any lower levels who want to be pulled through, no problem, but the level 30 raids are a different animal!
Edit 3: Thank you to Cozyman Cam for this link explaining how a weapons attack affects your damage output in game http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/84047545/0/0/1
Edit 4: To the guy who is prattling on about getting 1188 kills in a single raid. This means
A. You were killing the endless mobs at the start to grow your e-penis.
B. You repeatedly wiped somewhere like the confluxes with your awful, underpowered weapon. 1188 kills in a single raid is something to be ashamed of.
Edit 5: This is not a discussion about gaming skill, some people are better than others and that's fine, this is a post about laziness, if you take a sub 300 weapon or no experience into a level 30 raid you are a selfish gamer, end of.
Edit 6: Hearing a level 31 say "Okay, so the three who can hold the relic get to the back of the arena, because that's who Atheon teleports." :-/
Edit 7: It is not cool to use The Last Word in a raid (I'm sure we can agree on that, at least)
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That does suck, but no need to cry about it.
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Cozyman cam is incorrect btw
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It's not even difficult to upgrade weapons.
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Guns take 2-3 days to max. I agree with you, it's straight up laziness.
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[quote]level 31 characters with 274 attack guns in a raid[/quote] aka Christmas Noobs. Acquiring and leveling weapons takes much longer because the daily mission experience does not apply to weapons, only to armor. So bounty turn ins (with the guns you want to level up equipped) and kills with that specific weapon are the only ways to level them up... and most noobs dont understand this, so they have the light level, but not the weapon upgrades
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Atheon.. Lol. You dont even need a plan for that. It's easy as -blam!-.
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Too long didn't read. ~~~(^_^)~~~ Oooh yeah!!!!!!!
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I do have several 300 weapons. But with the current model of new higher damage weapons coming in about 2 months I'm no longer dumping any kind of energies or shards on newer weapons or gear until after HoW. It just feels like a waste to me unlil we have more time, which we'll have 6 months til comet, and we find out what other shenanigans are out in with the new DLC. I've done both raids with sub 300 weapons just to test performance and do fine with ads. Grant it I have specific weapons for bosses & oracles etc.
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thanks, I get called a dick or a scrub because I can't carry these selfish pricks. it's a fire team not fire babysitters
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I agree with you. You need to level your gun up before going into a raid with them.
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When the edits are longer than the post
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I haven't read all of the edits or anything but I get the post. I personally don't play with anyone who has shit damage guns and aim to get a team with high Grimoire. Also if people are going to be level 31, upgrade your guns please for -blam!- sake. Lazy bastards
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People with 274 guns aren't experienced, practice makes a good player, therefore low level guns=increased likelihood of a bad player.
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You need maxed weapons. It's really easy to do. As easy as upgrading armor. I got the gjallahorn and atheons epilogue I have equipped yesterday evening. It doesn't need to be a specific weapon but it should be maxed.
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Why the hell are you 'sick of it'? Is it really that much of a problem in your life that what others do in a game adversely affects your health?
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Edit 6: seems like someone was watching some outdated YouTube vids
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I level 30 raid with low damage weapons because well, I can. And you know what? I still out perform and die less than my teammates. It's in the hands of the Guardian that matters.
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John says to bob " hey man I'm gonna go run a marathon, it'll be tough but a fun experience. Some friends and I are going as a team!" Bob to john " awesome man, hey can I go. I know I haven't trained and sit on my couch while eating chips all day. I totally want slow you guys down!" If you bring an under leveled weapon to a raid you are a fat, chip shoveling, couch ridden bob.
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I have no experience. I have done two raids. So that makes me a selfish gamer? How about it makes me gamer that has a job, wife and 3 kids and doesn't have the time to sink into running raids on multiple toons
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What I hate is people saying they will only raid with lvl30 + and you wonder why people are using low damage level weapons but are still lvl30. It's a game get over yourselves.
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Why didn't they make all lvl31 gear 150 marks and a commendation ? This would have sorted a lot of this out !
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Dude. Shut up. Its a damn game. Come play pvp with me so i can sit and laugh at you???? Stop being mean to newer players.
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Lol just described me exactly. However, I happen to be very skilled and experienced thank you very much :)
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Nearly Xmas. Will the cry-babies be getting a 300+ attack weapon under their tree? I doubt they'll need one, just a large knife to slice that massive block of cheese they'll be tucking into.
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^^ this. I couldnt agree more. Get those weapons up to at LEAST 300 before using it in VoG hm or Crotas End normal. When Hm of Crotas End releases should only use 331 attack weapons.