I'm more annoyed when playing my level 29 hunter. Due to RNG screwing with me, it's hard to get into a hard raid. When I play either of my level 30 warlocks, I get spammed with raid requests no matter what I'm doing. I have decided to do normal raids, and hard Aethon cp with my warlock characters. The normal raid with randoms is fun. Everyone is excited, and player mistakes do not automatically cause the party to wipe. The hard raid is too frustrating with randoms. It's not worth it, unless I know the players.

Go play with your friends. You're such an asshole you fake 30

Destiny is one of the most easy games to get some nice additions to your friend list (especially prior, during or after a raid) so why is that not so in your case?

Sorry if 29s are having a hard time. It's not really your fault since it's all rng, unless you just started raiding then you just need to grind it out a few weeks.

I only get tired when I can't complete the raid with 29's so by the end of the week I am asking for. 30's. I will take a Titan with weapons of light any day !

I only just recently found out that some level 30's look down at other level 30's unless that level 30 got all their armor from the raid instead of Iron Banner. That's some hardcore condescending right there. Apparently being high level means suffering through RNG. Atheon isn't the real bad guy here, it's RNGesus...

Most people prefer convenience and ease over frustration and annoyance.

I often have my own frustrations finding groups as s 29, but I can honestly say I get why. The groups I've been successful with have no less than 3 30's. Anytime it's been tried with less just leads to frustration. Though should probably clarify that I've beaten atheon with 4 29's, but there again I think atheon is the easiest part of the whole raid.

Kind of funny to check the profiles of people who are asking for 30s only to join. So many are 29.

[quote]I'm getting very tired of these stuck up ass level 30's who will only play with other level 30's. I have a 30 warlock and 2 29's (a titan and hunter). I tried for an hour to find a group to do the hard raid with and nobody would let me join with my 29 titan. Which is bullshit because I guarantee I am better than they think I am. I know how to play the vog like a pro but nobody would give me a chance because I do less damage. Bullshit. All I want to do is do the hard raid with my titan to maybe get the chest so I could have another character at 30. Update: finally got a great group of guys and got the raid on hard done. Didn't get the chest I was wanting but I got the helmet. But I have helm of inmost light so didn't really need it lol. Edit: I'm not saying all 30's are like this. Not even saying most are. Just some. Hell I'm a 30 myself on another character and I've helped 29's before. Also I've seen comments of people saying the people didn't want to play with me because I'm probably bad..and they don't want someone with my attitude.. How the -blam!- can random people I message from lfg have any idea how good I am without giving me the slightest chance? Or how I talk to people? Every person I've played with on destiny has enjoyed my company. So those comments do not make sense at all. Please, quit commenting stupid shit. Its giving me a headache. Update: over 350 replies or whatever its called. Thanks to all of you who agree with me and thanks to all of you level 30's who aren't like the ones I encountered in that hour. Also I've never seen a post where the author has replied to as many comments as I have. Granted some of my replies are rude but I'm not rude unless you provoke me. Thanks again to all who deserve it. To all who don't.... You should be ashamed of yourselves lol.[/quote] I am level 30 & I am awful, I don't use a headset, I have no clan, I often die before the lowest level party members, I never kill ads & just Ru to the end of the level. So, look for skill not stats.

There is nothing you can do, problem is that you cannot do the hard raid with a team with just 29's. It has to be mixed, and from my experience at least with 3 level 30's who know what they are doing.

On a side note any level 30s want to go through the hard raid? Or we can sacrifice a few 29s to prepare for our new dlc! Anyone?

Level 30? That's old news, man.

Didn't read. Just wanted to say that i have two 30s and a third on the way and i for one have zero problem helping other regardless of level. In fact I'm helping two 27and a 28 complete their first raid at 7.

Ever think its the end of the week and most of them have probably already run it?

Take the Initiative and start the group yourself. Why let yourself be at the mercy of other players? Players have the option to scout players, and they will scout out the lvl 30s every time.

Being 30 definitely makes it easier, but maxed weapons are more important