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Is this the "10 year plan"?

Regardless how you feel about it, this is what's happening. We buy the game, level up and gain rewards. We are told to become Legend. We invest our precious time into an often times unrewarding system in hopes to get said rewards. Once we get these rewards, we spend more time leveling them and making them better because that's what we wanted. A few months later some DLC drops. We are told that out of all the content we just spent our time obtaining and leveling will be getting pushed to the side besides the selection of exotics we've obtained (which we can continue to level). Now the DLC drops and we have to start over (not entirely) and spend our time gaining new weapons and armor, not only because we want the new gear but because now we have to replace our old gear as well. In 3 more months this process will start again. When the second 'season' of DLC is announced and dropped, this will happen again. When Destiny 2 releases... seeing a pattern? After 2 years of playing this game are we still going to be using the SUROS and Gjhalahorn because those are the only viable options we've been allowed to keep? What becomes of the VoG? There will be absolutely no point in playing it. Why? Because who wants to farm for gear that does below average damage? The same thing goes for Krota. No one will play it when House of Winter releases. Many people said the game was lacking content but instead of adding content, they are replacing content. This is their 10 year plan? We could stop playing now and come back in 6 years and be on top of the food chain in a couple weeks. [EDIT] Coming back to this thread 6 months later and still surprised as to what's still true and to what's changed in order to retain/bring back users...
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  • This guy apparently has been living at his parents house for most of his life because he has amazing game ideas that he is working on. He clearly has a better system than any other game out there so I'm pretty excited to hear about his next release. What was the name of your game again...?

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    • OP is a butthurt troll. I don't know what his/her/it's problem is, seeing as how WoW does this all of the time. He/she/it is probably getting off to all the attention you all are giving him/her/it, laughing with all of their obnoxious little friends.

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    • Edited by SnakeDoc518: 12/6/2014 7:39:35 PM
      [quote]Regardless how you feel about it, this is what's happening.[/quote] first line in, and you're already drowning in bullshit..you THINK...you BELIEVE this is what's happening....it's your OPINION.....you need to learn how to differentiate between facts and opinions... [quote]We buy the game, level up and gain rewards. We are told to become Legend. We invest our precious time into an often times unrewarding system in hopes to get said rewards. Once we get these rewards, we spend more time leveling them and making them better because that's what we wanted.[/quote] ok, this seems legit... [quote]A few months later some DLC drops.[/quote] also, legit.. [quote]We are told that out of all the content we just spent our time obtaining and leveling will be getting pushed to the side besides the selection of exotics we've obtained (which we can continue to level).[/quote] um...no? [quote]Now the DLC drops and we have to start over (not entirely) and spend our time gaining new weapons and armor, not only because we want the new gear but because now we have to replace our old gear as well.[/quote] again, no. you're obviously confused about what's happening, and resorting to panic and hyperbole.....it's understandable, but also unnecessary. [quote]In 3 more months this process will start again.[/quote] O,o really? the announced a release date, feature list, and all the rest of that, for the house of wolves? f**kin' SWEET....now i can plan out the first bit of 2015 for myself.....oh, wait..you're just talking out of your ass again.....goddamnit. [quote]When the second 'season' of DLC is announced and dropped, this will happen again.[/quote] you do love your speculative doom porn, don't you? [quote]When Destiny 2 releases... seeing a pattern?[/quote] do you work for Bungie? or do you perhaps have some inside source at Bungie? no? well then, all of this is guessing, and hyperbolic...stop talking out of your ass.. [quote]After 2 years of playing this game are we still going to be using the SUROS and Gjhalahorn because those are the only viable options we've been allowed to keep?[/quote] if that's how you wanna play the game, be my guest....i intend to find new favorite toys to blow up aliens with.. [quote]What becomes of the VoG? There will be absolutely no point in playing it. Why? Because who wants to farm for gear that does below average damage?[/quote] i love all this speculation....you have a great imagination... [quote]The same thing goes for Krota. No one will play it when House of Winter releases.[/quote] bullshit. and it's house of WOLVES, not winter.. [quote]Many people said the game was lacking content but instead of adding content, they are replacing content.[/quote] really? what content is going away? that's what "replaced" means...it means they take something away, and substitute, or replace it, with something else....so what are we losing? answer: nothing, jackass....they are adding content..so sorry, they're not doing it in a fashion that's entirely to your liking...i forgot that the sole purpose of this game existing is to provide you with enjoyment...my apologies, King of the snowflakes....i had no idea you dressed as a commoner... [quote]This is their 10 year plan?[/quote] no, their 10 year plan is to tell an epic story, over the course of a number of games.... [quote]We could stop playing now and come back in 6 years and be on top of the food chain in a couple weeks.[/quote] lol, no.

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      • Not trying to sound like an ass but what do you think the plan should be?

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      • I think their plan is that there is a 10 year plan. Not sure that they know what that involves but i guess we'll see as we go along.

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      • Wait...so you're telling me I play the game and in three months I get more content to play more? What a rip off!! I was hoping to play the same thing for 10 years!!!

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          • Yes this is the 10 year plan and it is same basic plan that any mmorpg game takes. Tough if you dont like it.. then stop playing for it is not going to be changed or stopped because you dont like it. The Vog will be for players still needing the gear to do Crota, Crota for the House of Winter and so forth. So yes they still will have reason and yes players will still do them for newer toons or newer players and yes there are still new players coming in to the game. So no they will not be obsolete at all. No you could not stop now and come back later and be on top in a few weeks for your gear now would be practially useless and it would take time to level up to get the new gear and level it up. So no they are not just replacing content, it is how all mmo;s are. WoW is exactly like this in how it did on its expansions.. guess you never played many mmo;s before.

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            • this is the first DLC i have ever purchased, the only thing i wonder is does content normally come to fruition THIS fast. i feel like 3 months is a very short time for everything... like i said though i haven't purchase anything else DLC before, and never kept track of timeline of release.

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            • You do realize that you just described every loot based game right? People (most) don't just play through the story on borderlands once and trade it in. They play it again, and again trying to farm for legendary weapons, and shields... Then more are released and you do it again. And again. Until the next game comes out. It's the addictive desire to get the next best weapon or piece of gear that these games are built around. Is this game without flaw? Absolutely not. There is most certainly a lack of content. That content is what distracts you from realizing you're doing the same things over and over. RNG CAN BE A REAL PAIN IN THE ASS, and demoralizing at times. I've put a lot of time into this game. Most of which I enjoyed. A lot. I keep coming back to it. Because the addictive desire to get the next best thing works. Sometimes I wish I had more things to do that would get me the next best thing, as there are a lot of times where I finish the daily/bounties and am left wondering what should I do now... But I enjoy this game. It will only get more content with time. There's no shame with reaching your limit of enjoyment with a game. If you have, trade it in and move on. Simple as that.

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              • "We could stop playing now and come back in 6 years and be on top of the food chain in a couple weeks." This is what's bugging me. I finally got a legendary speeder from playing the raid, and a week or two later a friend of mine who just started playing Destiny had a better one he got in the expansion pack. I wouldn't mind new levels and having to level up new weapons if newbies had to go through the same grinding I went through to get where I am, but with vendors selling level 30 gear I feel like a fool for playing this game since day one.

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                • [quote]We could stop playing now and come back in 6 years and be on top of the food chain in a couple weeks.[/quote] It worked the last 10 years for WoW :-D

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                  • Anybody else notice how bad the weapon selection was in the Tower?

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                  • Edited by OC Jeffrey: 12/9/2014 12:18:01 AM
                    The only thing that bugs me is the fact the don't just add new damage/defense slots to our existing raid weapons and exotic gear/weapons, what's the point of leveling them up now? Pretty much nothing :P gonna miss my VoC

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                    • All the exotics gained after 12/9 will be the upgraded versions. There actually isnt enough content for them to get rid of our old ones and have us focus on just the new. Some twit over at bungie thought that in order to keep us playing we can spend our time leveling stuff we just leveled. He probably got a promotion. Wait until you spend the money and shard to update a weapon and xur sells the updated version the following week. The butthurt will flow through the forums like wild fire

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                      • For any mmoish game or RPG for that matter post game DLC is always better than base game content. I'm grateful that they gave us a way to take items were attached to with us.

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                      • The one thing that really prevents Destiny from being an MMO is the amount of people that can be in the same area. Aside from that, it is very much an MMO though one that lacks depth and scope. So yes, when an Expansion/DLC comes out, previous gear is often made obsolete and you have to re-grind. If you don't like doing the same thing over and over again only to have your progress somewhat wiped out at some point, then you might as well quit now. That's typically how MMO's get replay value out of content. That all said, what concerns me is Vault of Glass. In most MMO's when new content comes out, the old content is only somewhat left behind. Newer players still have to run it to get gear from it so they can move on. But with the new vendor legendaries being better than raid gear, why would people do VoG? I know the devs said that people will do it because it's fun but to me that just sounds like they didn't really think it through properly and thus didn't have a better answer.

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                        • I sort of agree. But it will happen a lot slower then you forecast. #1. Lower level raids will still be done for: Raid exotics & exotics in general #2. When the house of wolves comes out, then all of the original gear will be useless. The thing is, that 90% of the stuff in crota's is 300 anyway. The raid is the only thing that requires stuff higher. So the decay of previous weapons will be a lot slower. #3. the content isn't disappearing. Far from it. There are layers building up. Its what MMOs do. Whats disappearing (very slowly) is under leveled gear, which goes away in all MMOs.

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                        • You ARE becoming legend.. you are the same character, evolving and growing, getting stronger guns and armor as the game itself grows..

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                        • Welcome to the world of MMO games or in the case of Destiny.......a game that is a hybrid of FPS and MMO.

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                        • Look at wow. Its been around for 10 years. You can be level 90 to start. Get level 100 In a day and start doing raids that very day you started the game.!

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                        • You've got to be some kind of stupid to think the game won't change and evolve over the next 10 years.

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                          • Though I don't want to have to relevel up my weapons, I'm still excited. I think old content such as the vault of glass, should have new levels added. Perhaps a night fall's perspective to it? Where you can get new level armor. Anyways, they need to make the rest of the game keep it's replayability. Which I'm sure is the plan. I really just want more gameplay that plays with my level. Slaughtering low level enemies has already became tiredsome.

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                          • No, we can give a round of applause to Activision for gutting the game to a third of the content that was originally suppose to be.

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                          • It is sad but again it's just what they think is good

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