Did all see this? http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/12/03/stare-into-the-dark-below-new-details-on-the-destiny-expansion.aspx?utm_content=buffer08682&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer&PostPageIndex=2 Unless I'm missing something... 1. Theres no reason to continue upgrading... anything right now, unless im missing the bigger picture or this auther has it wrong. 2. All exotics when upgraded get better, but start over... so i need 7k glimmer, 7 strange coins (or exotic shard) and the exotic in question... then - we get to do it all over again? Okay, not exactly sure what the point of making us level up what we already leveled is... but I would have rathered they just charge me 14 strange coins... or 2 shards and 20k glimmer and saved me the relevel it up headache... seems like a burden just to be a burden. Unlocking and leveling up thorn the first time was a pain... i unlicked 2 more. I really wasnt looking forward to leveling 2 more up... much less, all 3 again! For those of us who run 3 toons - this level it all up again decision is painful. 3. What the heck - all legendaries are junk after dlc? Really? Does that include VoG raid gear cannot be upgraded? Please tell me thats not the case... VoG weapons do not get to upgrade? Someone tell me I'm missing something... or this author is misinformed... I can't imagine bungie making the flagship raid completely obsolete in one fell swoop of new dlc. This just seems... so wrong... however, much other info in the article looks promising... but, I just cant get past the above after putting so much time into this experience. I really hope to find more details on this. Thanks for listening, if you have info from a reliable source - I'm all ears. + + + [edit] + + + SUGGESTION + + + + + + + + + Here's how you keep players vested and happy with progression into the new DLC (and any future DLC)! 1) Have new equipment that is wow and desirable, something folks will work toward... 2) Allow folks to quest / find / buy upgrade items or go find a vendor in the wild - an NPC (or several perhaps) of sorts, that allows you to UPGRADE your existing equipment with new BUBBLES to make it on par with existing... (why only Xur... why only weekends... some folks work on the weekend!) - if you really like that legendary that you won in the last IB, no problem - we like it too at BNG, we want you to remember the fond times you had with buds earning that piece of gear... here's the means for you to unlock additional damage on that gear so that it is ON PAR with the new loot 3) don't make folks re-level what they have already leveled - that's dumb... you are CRUSHING my existing investment and my EXISTING in-game memories of that weapon's attainment and unlocking! WHY DO THAT? 4) build a reroll merchant - like in IB, use the mote system or whatever, and allow folks to reroll stats on older equipment... maybe they can't get the latest DLC rolls, but they should be able to get the range of perks available on that gun at the time it was available 5) whatever you award in end-game raid (Legendaries and Exotics) should be upgradable, not just Exotics - that's short sighted, again - you are CRUSHING memories folks have with obtaining equipment and raiding with friends and clans... you are crapping all over that past investment and experiences in your world... Again - still all ears... man, I hope BNG folks see how what they are doing is a misstep... or perhaps someone can explain to me, how this is a good thing for all and the longevity of the experience - I'm serious, I love this game, but I hate the idea of throwing all the progress out the window each time DLC drops... + + + [EDIT - 12/4/14 - Well Thought Out Reddit Post] + + + Why the "Clearly you've never played an MMO" argument doesn't sit well response: http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2o8bnf/the_gear_treadmill_and_why_clearly_youve_never/