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Edited by FoMan123: 11/9/2014 12:32:07 AM
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Did Bungie actually break the law with Destiny (Bait and Switch)

"The purpose of the bait and switch is to convince the consumer to pay much more money than was originally planned. The idea is that the seller has already drawn the customer in with the bait and will now be free to switch the product without losing the customer...Consumer laws mandate that no advertisement should propose to sell an item that it does not actually intend to distribute at the advertised price or quality." By showing people a more complete and complex version of the final product to gain pre-order sales, then releasing a much more stripped down version with planned paid DLC later that might activate portions of the game that were basically finished and exist as code (albeit locked out) on the game disc, did Bungie actually break any laws during the pre-release portion of this game? Or does this not apply because the project was still unfinished at the time? I feel like if people pre-ordered based on the vision that was being shown to them in 2013, then what they received in 2014 was a much lower-grade product, and there might be some legal issues for Bungie based on that in the future (if anyone wanted to pursue it).
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  • You might be on to something selling a stripped down game bad bungie.

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  • Your best bet to have this situation investigated would be to contact the ftc, and let them make the determination and do the work for you. Won't cost you a thing other than some time. At best the most you can hope for if they determine that bungie/Activision broke any laws is an admission of guilt and retractions. Which in all honesty, I think would be satisfactory for most of us. And perhaps open the developers and publishers eyes so they might see that the consumer will not stand for these unethical practices.

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    • Edited by REDxPIG: 11/7/2014 7:44:18 PM
      Yes. False advertisement

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      • I certainly feel conned. Worse, I pre-ordered the DLC based on the same false advertising and can't get my money back on something that isn't out yet and that I won't even be able to play all of when it does come.

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        • All the people who disagree with this are c0cksucking desticles. Maybe you should get off Activision's c0ck and get deej's dick out your mouth.

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        • What if Bungie advertised heists?

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        • No, they broke no laws. We get your upset with the game, go release your hate tears elsewhere.

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        • No.

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        • If you played the beta, you have no one to blame but yourself. I played the beta a fair amount and knew what to expect from the game. All of you just want something for nothing. Destiny has been the best 60 bucks i've spent on a game in a very long time.

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          • You can get a lawyer for $250 an hour or pro bono. If they think you got a shot and take it pro bono and you win, he/she gets half plus expenses. Let us know how that works out.

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          • This is the sixteenth topic on suing Bungie and/or Activision. In the two months this game has been available, I have not seen ONE successful story of ANYONE taking the company to court or getting them to settle out of it. You will be the 16th failure. Why? You forget three little words that provide complete protection from people like you. SUBJECT. TO. CHANGE. And until you and everyone who agrees with you gets it into their heads that because of these three words, no such thing will happen, you will still be failures. Accept that not everything will be as it appears. What you see is not always true. What you hear may not be what is said. Stop encouraging failure.

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            • Bungie has more money than you. Whether any laws were broken is irrelevant. If you want to say otherwise, then you better have more expensive lawyers.

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              • There was always going to be dlc and we all knew that.

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              • Ha!

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              • Edited by Phantom139: 11/7/2014 8:17:22 PM
                Ok question for you. If they are indeed pulling a bait and switch here with the DLC packs, then answer me this one question. What one part of the DLC pack that is currently advertised has ever been shown in a Destiny full game advertisement? Dear lord I wish people like you would actually do some rock solid research before jumping to ridiculous conclusions, because I have yet to find one person on your end of the spectrum that has anything other than theories and complaints.

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                • Its a game get over it crap happens.

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                • Come on, friend. Let it go. Play or don't.

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                  • If that's the case R* would have been in court a long time ago. It's been 13 months and still no Heist lol.

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                    • So you wanna sue because you were too impatient to wait for reviews and jumped on the hype train cause of ads? Uninformed consumer is uninformed.

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                      • You don't know the law Your dumb Mute stupid kid

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                        • NOT NECESSARILY CAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT THEY ALSO ADVERTISED THIS GAME TO BE 10 YEARS SOO THEY HAD TO CUT DOWN AND USE WHAT THEY HAD AS DLC IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT HOW MUCH MORE COULD THEY HAVE ADDED IF THEY DID THAT TO MAKE THIS GAME LAST 10 YEARS? SOO BE THANKFUL THEY DIDNT OTHERWISE ITD BE JUST ANOTHER EVERYDAY GAME

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                          • Read this http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?word=Consumer+Protection Keep in mind everything prior to launch stated "not finished product, final product may change, preproduction concept art," and several other disclaimers. Also, when you load the game it states "you agree to all terms....and waive all legal rights to lawsuits against Activision, bungie, and all employees." See bungie website.

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                          • No.

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                          • Hahaha consumer laws? Are you really the consumer? I think it was your parents.

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                          • No.

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                          • Development changes do not equal selling a different product. Besides at the core we were sold a shared world shooter, an FPS with some RPG and MMO qualities. That is what we got. Had we been shipped a racing game, or something like Farmville on facebook (some thing TOTALLY and FUNDAMENTALLY different) there might be some basis to this.

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